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Message:: [QUOTE="charley, post: 8297585, member: 5372"]That is not quite my memory of events, at all. I completely recall Diane's answer @ the ANA Hearing. Here we are, 21 years later, and the same issue is still in play. There is no Standard that is not an Opinion, in a TPG or 4PG Grading issue. There is no grading Standard (or Standard"s") that are fact. Acceptance of any grading Opinion is the choice of the collector/hobbyist. Mine is better than yours is still the game, and to suggest otherwise, is self-deception. Additionally, I recall Gov. Stuppler and the shot heard around the collecting world, and the "decision" to settle" by the insurance companies. 2003, 2004, and 2005 was a numismatic As The World Turns TV Show, that continues all these years later. The one thing not settled is we still do not have any Standard that is anything other than an Opinion, and that is market driven. Opining as if the wild west days of collecting are over, because of the demise of ACG,ASA, etc., is Ostrich action. It was not so much an epic event as it was a disappointing event. There was some wise counsel offered by Bill Voss, though. The sadness is, it was not universally practiced. That is all I have to say about that. I am old and need a nap, now.[/QUOTE]