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<p>[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3441914, member: 76863"]Both are actually subjective human contrusts and reasonable objectivity levels vary by topic. I don’t care that many here will flame me for pointing these things out or not understand intelligent discussion or want things to be how they were decades ago so they don’t have to learn. </p><p><br /></p><p>Shooting is an easy example to understand. The selected target is completely subjective. Nature didn’t tell you to pick the red dot in the middle, neither did physics, neither did life or death you’re shooting at paper. That’s a subjective target. Grading a coin is not dictated by anything other than human opinion, some opinions are worth much more than others. </p><p><br /></p><p>Accurately missing the target in the same spot is a subjective form of saying it was accurate. You missed the target that’s not accurate to many people no matter how close the grouping. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now a bunch of the blah blah will jump on and just say that I just condemned grading but I did not. Higher intelligence would realize that the precision target was a subjective target in the first place and something cannot be 100 percent objective when subjectivity is involved as personal feelings are a disqualifier for being objective which again is a sucjective human construct definition. </p><p><br /></p><p>Objectivity literally has definitions of lack of personal feelings/bias and open mindedness and dealing with facts without personal interpretations. What some people are stating is anything but bias free or open minded as they want things their way which is anything but objective. Trying to say this that and the next is wrong because it isn’t how they want it is not objective. </p><p><br /></p><p>The sooner people learn that human rating systems are subjective and subject to personal opinions where real experts opinions carry more weight the better off they will be. This idea that there’s some natural law of grading or that because it was done this way decades ago it’s better when that was a change from decades prior is not objective and unfortunately new people may fall for it and be mislead. </p><p><br /></p><p>Grading is and always has been an evolving construct where increased knowledge will tweek it and collectors and the market themselves will have an influence. Everyone should make the effort to continue to learn to be relevant. Barry Bonds was the best hitter on the planet for a decade, he wouldn’t even be relevant in baseball now. Many geniuses and theories have been disproven with more time and many of today’s theories will eventually be disproven in the future. </p><p><br /></p><p>The idea of this is how I did it so it should always be done this way is a fatal flaw of mankind. If people want to be on an island by themselves with theories that is their right, but it doesn’t mean everyone else is wrong.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3441914, member: 76863"]Both are actually subjective human contrusts and reasonable objectivity levels vary by topic. I don’t care that many here will flame me for pointing these things out or not understand intelligent discussion or want things to be how they were decades ago so they don’t have to learn. Shooting is an easy example to understand. The selected target is completely subjective. Nature didn’t tell you to pick the red dot in the middle, neither did physics, neither did life or death you’re shooting at paper. That’s a subjective target. Grading a coin is not dictated by anything other than human opinion, some opinions are worth much more than others. Accurately missing the target in the same spot is a subjective form of saying it was accurate. You missed the target that’s not accurate to many people no matter how close the grouping. Now a bunch of the blah blah will jump on and just say that I just condemned grading but I did not. Higher intelligence would realize that the precision target was a subjective target in the first place and something cannot be 100 percent objective when subjectivity is involved as personal feelings are a disqualifier for being objective which again is a sucjective human construct definition. Objectivity literally has definitions of lack of personal feelings/bias and open mindedness and dealing with facts without personal interpretations. What some people are stating is anything but bias free or open minded as they want things their way which is anything but objective. Trying to say this that and the next is wrong because it isn’t how they want it is not objective. The sooner people learn that human rating systems are subjective and subject to personal opinions where real experts opinions carry more weight the better off they will be. This idea that there’s some natural law of grading or that because it was done this way decades ago it’s better when that was a change from decades prior is not objective and unfortunately new people may fall for it and be mislead. Grading is and always has been an evolving construct where increased knowledge will tweek it and collectors and the market themselves will have an influence. Everyone should make the effort to continue to learn to be relevant. Barry Bonds was the best hitter on the planet for a decade, he wouldn’t even be relevant in baseball now. Many geniuses and theories have been disproven with more time and many of today’s theories will eventually be disproven in the future. The idea of this is how I did it so it should always be done this way is a fatal flaw of mankind. If people want to be on an island by themselves with theories that is their right, but it doesn’t mean everyone else is wrong.[/QUOTE]
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