GTG 1944-D Jefferson Nickel (NGC) #2

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Guess the Assigned Grade (NGC)

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-63

  3. MS64

  4. MS65

  5. MS66

  6. MS67

  7. Other (Please Explain in Comments)

  8. 5FS (Five Full Steps)

  9. NOT FS (Please explain in Comments)

  10. + Grade

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I have not done the reveal for this coin yet, I want some of the people I tagged above to respond first.

    Regarding what constitutes a step, it is the number of complete lines (recessed) +1. The foundation that the columns rest on constitute the first step and below the first recessed line would be the second step. PCGS and NGC have different standards for the FS designation. PCGS will allow shallow marks across the steps as long as the continuity of the steps is not interrupted. NGC is more strict and any mark that traverses one of the lines, no matter how slight, will usually preclude the full step designation.
     
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  3. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Agree...there should be a National Symposium on FS Jeffs.
     
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  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    66 5FS. Nice coin! Great luster!
     
  5. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    66 5FS

    Almost has a PL look to it.
     
  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I should be the chairperson.
     
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  7. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I guessed, and that's all it is, a guess, MS66 NOT FULL STEPS.
    And, to me, there in lies the problem with TPG. A few, very few, people are dictating what the entire numismatic community should accept. Well, I don't, but that's just me.
     
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  8. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    It's not just you...or a few...my friend.
     
  9. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I didn't get to vote but that is a really nice Jeffie.
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Why can’t you vote, the poll is open?
     
  11. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    ^^^^they think the other jeff you posted is the reveal.
     
  12. Gileshokie

    Gileshokie New Member

    I'll go with MS65 5FS
     
  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I told them it wasn’t, it’s not even the same date.
     
  14. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Some folks can't read!
     
  15. mike estes

    mike estes Well-Known Member

    hey Lehigh96 really nice coin. im going with MS66 and 5 FS. good luck to ya
     
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  16. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    How is that full step. the last 2 steps are merged on the die. I have seen that on my mint set break outs. Yo think, maybe, and then, no way.
     
  17. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    We should start our own grading service with crowd sourcing. Put the coin up with a poll. Slab it and grade it according to the votes. It can't be worst that calling that a full step.
     
  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Wow, this thread went a little sideways.
    I guessed 66 not 5FS. It al depends on how deep the ding is under the third pillar.
     
  19. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Sorry, not very nice of me...Should have said "some folks don't read"
     
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  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    So the only person who got this right was @capthank, who didn't actually respond in the comments but did vote MS67. @RonSanderson voted MS67 5FS and I agree with him and will likely be submitting this coin for regrade in the near future. As a group, we are pretty much split right down the middle as to whether this coin is full steps or not, but some of those people are applying the standard for 6FS not 5FS. I got this coin at a very reasonable price which will allow me to gamble with the resubmission. Even if it doesn't get 5FS, I will still get a new holder and likely break even on the coin. To me, this presents what we call in poker, a "Freeroll!"

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  21. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Great thread and good luck with re-submission.
     
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