GTG 1941-D Jefferson Nickel

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lehigh96, Dec 3, 2019.


Please guess the assigned grade

  1. MS64

  2. MS65

  3. MS66

  4. MS67

  5. MS68

  6. Other (please explain in comments)

  7. FS (5 Full Steps)

  8. + grade

  9. * designation

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Please guess the grade of the 1941-D Jefferson Nickel shown below. I have attached a poll for you to cast your vote and you may select up to 4 different things: the numerical grade, Full Steps, + grade, and * designation. Now it is obvious that the coin is housed in a PCGS holder so it can't have the star designation, but please consider that I may cross this coin to NGC, so your vote with respect to the * designation would be whether or not you think the coin would get a star from NGC in the future. Please vote for your grade before scrolling down to read the responses as they may influence your decision.


    As always, comments welcome!
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  3. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    I'll guess 65 with 5 steps. I like the suttle toning.
  4. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    Likely PCGS grade: MS-67.

    The luster appears quite strong, and the eye appeal is obviously quite attractive. There is some planchet roughness on his cheek, and there are a few noticeable contact marks in his hair. There don't appear to be many marks worth mentioning on the reverse.

    Also, this clearly does not appear to have 6FS. I think these steps are above average, and might just barely qualify for 5FS.
  5. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Member

  6. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Would this coin warrant a star designation by NGC?
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    Not in my opinion, no. The Star should be for exceptional eye appeal. It has fairly average eye appeal for a 67. It is attractive and lustrous, but the toning is mostly generic gold with some subtle highlights. This is not Star quality.
  8. ddoomm1

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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

  10. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    MS 67, with 5 full steps. Nice toning as well.
  11. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    MS 65, bottom step merged. Reverse somewhat soft-appearing strike. Nice luster.
  12. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd

    I put MS64+. A really nice coin but, I feel, it's another one that didn't quite pass muster to the gem grade.
  13. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    67FS. Beautiful coin
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody who doesn’t know anything...

    It is close to 67. I will say 66+ 5FS
  15. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I voted MS65+FS.
  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 66 FS....looks clean and appealing (but not star worthy in my opinion)
  17. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    MS67 no full steps because of the mark across steps 4 and 5 between pillars 2 and 3. No star because of the late die stages and the orange peel effect.

    Nice coin!
  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I bought this coin as part of a 10 coin set which equated to about $20 per coin. To my eyes, the coin is certainly 5FS and has a decent shot at upgrading to MS67 if I submit to NGC. The luster and eye appeal are much better than my photos show.


    It really surprises me that PCGS didn't grade this coin FS.
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  19. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    If anybody would PCGS would. I think it deserves it.
  20. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    Dear Lehigh,

    I have numerous nickels displaying the same type of steps situation as the coin you display here. The main block of 5 steps is complete with 5 full incuse lines. BUT, outside the 5 step block, at bottom is a partial line, a broken incuse line appears on my coins and about the same as this coin of yours. SO, technically it is a full 5 step. The bottom broken "step" is irrelevant, as it is below the full 5 steps. You are the expert here, do you agree?? If it is not a "step" within the proper "block" of 5, then PCGS made a bo bo here! Please reply.
    Gary in Washington
  21. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I have linked a thread I wrote a decade ago about the definitions of full steps below; it should answer any questions that anyone may have. Your point is well taken and is the reason that I posted this guess the grade thread. This coin clearly has 5 Full Steps which is all that is required for PCGS to award the FS designation yet the coin does not bear the designation. In fact the steps are so clear that I think the coin would easily be graded 5FS by NGC. In that light, the coin is also a very high end MS66 in PCGS which means it has a strong chance at grading MS67 5FS by NGC. I plan to crack this coin out and submit it to NGC for grading. If it comes back MS66 5FS, I will break even or lose a few dollars, but if it comes back MS67 5FS I will make a nice little profit.

    The FS (Full Step) Designation for Jefferson Nickels Defined (PHOTOGRAPHICALLY)

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