GTG 1938-S Jefferson Nickel

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lehigh96, Oct 10, 2019.


Guess the Assigned Grade?

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-MS64+

  3. MS65

  4. MS65+

  5. MS66

  6. MS66+

  7. MS67

  8. MS67+

  9. MS68

  10. Other (Please explain in comments)

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Please guess the grade of the 1938-S Jefferson Nickel shown below by voting in the attached poll. Please make your grade determination and cast your vote before scrolling down to read the responses to the thread.


    As always, comments welcome!
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  3. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    People don't like to go first in the fear of being mistaken and looking stupid.
    I'm in at 67.
  4. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    Too many distracting marks and the coin didn't fully strike up. That kept me at 66. Initially I was at 67. But, when I went to buy it, and take a closer look, it lost a point. Still, a nice coin.
  5. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I like it at MS65+
  6. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

  7. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Member

    I am going with MS65 because of the obverse chatter and the contact mark on the reverse field. If no contact mark I'd have called it an easy MS66
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The number of small dings on Jefferson's cheek led me to a 65.
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  9. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Chatter on the obverse and a mark on the reverse. Good coin for all of us to try our skill on. 65.
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  10. Stevearino

    Stevearino Supporter! Supporter

    Going all in for 66+. The marks wouldn't be that distracting in hand, IMHO.

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  11. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

  12. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy Supporter

    I'm at MS66
  13. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody...

    I voted 66. I don’t think in + grades
  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    To me, a + grade is the result of a coin that you think is between grades but something held it back to the lower grade. For example, if I was torn between MS67 and MS66 for this coin but ultimately chose MS66 because of the mark on the reverse below the C, then it would stand to reason that the grade should be MS66+.

    I’m not trying to say I think the coin is an MS66+, I’m just pointing out that in my world, the + grade has real function.
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  15. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    I went 65+ I'm thinking the obverse scratches by the date area are on the slab and not the coin. If they are on the coin then in combination with other contact marks (cheek, under Mont. etc...), I'd say 64+.
    Curious on this one.
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Those are die polish lines and don’t affect the grade.
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  17. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Then a good chance at 66+ IMO
    But I chose 65+ to be clear.
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  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    It looks like a 65 to me, maybe a 65+.

    But this is a Jefferson, so it's probably something ridiculous.
  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Lol, those darn remnant planchet flaws.
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  20. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    I'm going for MS67+ on this one. Just a few marks left over from striking on the shoulder, which seems almost universal for Jeffersons.

    Edit: I meant marks on the cheek, not the shoulder. (I've been looking at Lincolns, where the planchet marks are predominately on the shoulder when the metal does not flow entirely up into the voids of the die. So I misspoke.)

    Nickel is hard, and the raw planchets are usually banged up, so I don't think these small marks that remain from the planchets have much effect on this grade.

    05c Planchet full 14.JPG
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  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Wild Bill

    Enough small marks on the cheek and the reverse say 65. Nice luster tho
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