GTG: 1938 Oregon Commemorative

@lordmarcovan had some fun gtgs lately. This one just arrived today and I’ll post it up. A straight grade from NGC.

I’ve wanted this coin for a long time. My only real criterion was that I wanted a strong strike with details in the indian’s face, the ox’s ribs, the mom and child, and the rear wagon canvas.

Several photos with some slight tilts:

 

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AU58?Nice coin,i find these confusing and hard to grade when not looking in person.

 

I wonder where the poll is?

MS-64 but I'm no good at grading these types of coins.

 

'64

 

MS64

 

Going with MS65.
What is with the obverse rim at 4:30? I'm asking because I have an Oregon that looks very similar there, and it doesn't look like a ding.

 

MS66

 

MS-64.

I see a straight line mark on the Indian’s stomach and another one above the right knee (view’s perspective).

 

66

 

Sharp eye. Does look like a little rim ding. NGC let it slide:

 

Definitely an unfortunate hit to the knee (both actually):


The stomach strike is very, very light.... although it has the magically property of catching the light:

 

Nice coin, starting to tone gracefully, I like it. MS-64

 

I had just woken up, and I'd like to change my guess to a 65, only because it's NGC. IMO, this is a 66 in PCGS, but NGC is a bit tougher on Classic Commems.

 

Really? My experience has been just the opposite.

Given the minor marks, I would say that this coin would get an MS-65 in the NGC holder and an MS-64 in the PCGS holder.

 

I've seen worse get a 66 from NGC. The bag marks shouldn't really affect the grade, in my opinion. Personally, I think it is a 64 at best, but as I've said before, TPG usually give commemoratives MS65 unless there is obvious wear or damage.

 

I really feel that way for the old silver commems.

 

I've seen (and own) worse that got a 67 from PCGS, and that one coin may have swung me to have that feeling as a whole about PCGS and the series.

 

It is a gem, or should be, for sure. Don’t dwell on one or two minor marks. I will go 65 in either PCGS, or NGC slab. Beautiful coin, with great toning, and a strong strike.

 

Sometimes the graders from both services look at lot of luster, and "lose their minds." Marks DO MATTER. If they didn't, there would be no difference between an MS-64 and a 67.

 

Technically I'm right in the middle of 64 and 65, really. I think market-wise this will easily get gem money, it will get more than a white 64, it's just that good-looking.