GTG 1938-D Jefferson Nickel (PCGS)

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Guess the Assigned Grade (PCGS)

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-63

  3. MS64

  4. MS65

  5. MS66

  6. MS67

  7. Other (Please explain in comments)

  8. FS (Full Steps)

  9. NOT FS

  10. + Grade

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The standard for full steps for the reverse of 38 is different than that of the reverse of 40. Typically, bridges & marks that interrupt the lines will disqualify a coin from getting the full step designation, but on the reverse of 38 where the bridges result from the design, the controlling factor is that the 5th step must be complete all the way across and multiple bridges and marks are allowed as long as the overall step detail is good. Here are some examples of full step reverse of 38 Jefferson Nickels.

    1938-D NGC MS67 5FS


    1939-D Rev of 38 NGC MS64 5FS (Photo taken before submission)

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    These steps are about as about perfect as you can get for a 38.
    I have no problem calling this a FS coin. I am also wondering why there is no 68 guess in the vote. It's very clean and lustrous.
    My vote is 67FS and wouldn't have a problem with a +.
  4. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    I voted MS 66 no FS. Overall eye appeal is outstanding. However I think the weak strike on the reverse holds it down. I may be wrong about holding the grade down for the weak reverse, it may be a characteristic of the year/MM or even the series. I would appreciate some feedback on my grading mythology to educate me about Jeffersons.
  5. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Agree, no FS...and to me it's not that close. Very obvious strike/wear interruptions (in this case, not wear but likely strike)...not by bag mark, etc. One thing I see/like...and if the FS designation is going to the outer steps. I'd like to see these small steps at the extreme right and left of the building somehow incorporated into the FS designation...or separately designated/factored for those fewer than few specimens that qualify (FFS = Full Front Steps and FTS = Full Total Steps...and maybe, in a x-rare instance, FOS = Full Outer Steps by themselves when no full front steps (there may be such but I've never seen one). On this example, left outer steps look full but maybe not quite on right. Anyway, hope I didn't steer this too far just naturally flowed out because I so appreciate the Jefferson nickel. Sorry if I did :(.
  6. CheckItTwice

    CheckItTwice New Member

    67+ & Full Steps if PCGS
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I like the way you think newcomer.

  8. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    67 NoFS

    Nice coin!
  9. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

  11. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    66+ not fs..looks mark free but somehow a step below the other example (which I graded 67)....I thought the breaks in each of the steps disqualified it from the designation (later saw the posts that show it does not...I still wouldn’t personally call it fs but I guess the graders might because of the date)
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  12. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I have a feeling this is going to be the same as the other one:shifty::shifty:.
  13. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    I will change my vote to 67+ 5FS after looking through all of the PCGS plate coins for FS. Here are 4 that I believe grade below your coin and also have weaker steps than yours.
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  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I see your point but I have also played the PCGS plate coin game before....sometimes you see coins that look the same or worse but they end up in higher graded holders.
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  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    It is impossible to tell this from my photos, but the luster is a tad muted. I expected a grade of MS66 FS. I am not going to reveal quite yet, but I will say that NOBODY has gotten it right, and I don't think anyone will.
  16. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    So, as I sometimes do, I'll climb out on the limb until it cracks just a bit...Change my guess to MS 68.
  17. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Edit ms68 FS due to the new announcement very tricky if so this has to be your best coin.
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2021
  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    You guys will never get it, because the assigned grade is insane.

  19. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    ????I'm so confused wow that's disappointing it should have straight graded thats like a total insult to the coin its beautiful and problem free!!!!.
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The only thing I can think is that they are calling the marks above the "LO" in Monticello on the building a wheel mark, which is crazy.
  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Where are the wheel marks? I sure as heck do not see any. Think PCGS blew another one. As I have maintained recently, NGC has been far more accurate than PCGS.
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