GTG 1921 Peace

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  1. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I'm in the 62 camp
     
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  3. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    MS-63
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think I see a slight bit of wear on the high points, although it isn't much at all, I think it is enough to get a AU 58 grade,
     
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  5. Coinlover67

    Coinlover67 Well-Known Member

    I am also am seeing a little bit of wear, so I am at AU 58.
     
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  6. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    AU55
     
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  7. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    On the high relief coins, the center of the obverse design is higher than the low relief
     
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  8. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    The suspense being created by @longshot is killing me!
     
  9. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

  10. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'll get to it sometime today. I bought it raw and was a tad bit disappointed in the grade I got. I know the pics aren't great but it is very interesting to me to see the responses.
     
  11. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    1921 peace-horz.jpg

    Here it is. I bought it raw from a dealer who sold it as a MS62, and I thought it was at least solidly that. The remarks about wear in the hair have me thinking, I can see from the pics where you are coming from, though it looks considerably less so in hand. Yet perhaps they felt it could be a slider, maybe? It's lustrous, the cheek is nice, there are some very faint lines in the toning in front of the face, and there is some black stuff at 5:00 on the reverse that acetone didn't touch. Annyyywayyy...I guess NGC made their call, and a few years ago ANACS gave it the same grade, so I guess no more worrying about the holder it's in for now. Thx for playing!
     
  12. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    Boooo, hissss
     
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  13. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I feel a little bad that I guessed so low so let me show what I was looking at.
    I could have been led astray by a poor picture.

    OP Photo
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    From PCGS Photograde
    MS64
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    AU58
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    XF40
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  14. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I love the XF40 pic. I have seen some graded MS65 with as much hair as a VF.
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The weakness wasn't in question, it was the semi loss of luster, on the high point. Slight darkness on the cheek and hair.
     
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  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    My guess, before the reveal,was 62; thanks to Silvermike for the photo of the high points of the design. Grading from photos is very hard, as slight changes in lighting can make a coin look completely different.
     
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  17. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    No need to feel bad. I believe your picture is of the normal relief peace dollars of succeeding years. The higher relief 1921s basically always lack hair detail in the centers, the presses were unable to fully bring up the design. That is why the change to the lower relief design.
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017
  18. Mike Thorne

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  19. orifdoc

    orifdoc Well-Known Member

    My favorite pick-up point for wear is the rock that the eagle is sitting on. There are shallow ridges on the rock which show wear very easily. It’s pretty easy with a loupe to pick up the loss of surface texture (be it frost, flow lines, or whatever) on the high points. What is NOT as easy is to figure out what the TPGs will do. With sliders, I’m of the opinion that they give the nicer ones low MS grades and the not-as-nice ones AU grades. Luster and eye appeal seem to swing the pendulum a bit.

    If there’s easily visible rub on the cheek or chin it will always end up as an AU. The 58 posted shows this clearly on the cheek. I like the OP’s coin and it has the look of old, original skin. I was at AU55 with a possible AU58 grade, but I tend to be overly harsh with these.
     
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