GTG 1909 VDB Lincoln cent

Well I guess that luster was found...... @robec

 

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RB? Well, ANACS got it wrong again.

Show us the 65 BN coin in better pictures!

 

Ha! Better do a book review.......

You saw a image of the coin taken by a professional , so your problem is you can't grade?.... or your fear of making a mistake?

Two other members hit both coins spot on.... neither boast of being an expert.....neither made any excuses. One more word and you'll have me believing you're the Tonya Harding....of nummistics.

 

Huh, @Paddy54 , I'm not really sure what I've done to offend you this time.

Not a single person in this thread voted RB.

We're talking about the coin on the right, right? Which Anacs graded 64 RB?

I said it was 64BN, and every single other poster in this thread said it was BN. (not a single person said RB - which is my point of disagreement).

ANACS says it is RB. Now, either the pictures presented are quite erroneous, or ANACS got it wrong. That's my opinion. Based on these pictures, that coin should not be called RB.

And, as the disclaimer that I've got posted in my signature posted below says, my opinion may be changed with more information, better pictures, or an in hand evaluation. However, based on what I see, I maintain that Anacs got it wrong, and that it should be a BN and not RB.

Now, if you want to come bust my kneecap, I'm in Charleston, SC. I think you'll find it pleasant this time of year.

 

Oooh, ooops.... I see in reviewing this thread that I have made an error.

You posted images of two different coins, and I didn't realize it. I quickly and casually gazed over the first (sub-par) images, and thought that you had presented a second set of (vastly superior) images in your later post. It was not clear to me that you were presenting two different coins, because I just glazed over the hazy, out of focus, first set of images.

The coin on the left is the second set of images, which I graded 64 BN. The right coin is the first set of images, which I would have also graded 64 BN.

I start to see why you were confused at my confusion.

Well, let me correct myself - Anacs got both of them wrong.

The first one should not be 65, and the second one should not be RB.

Both of them should be 64 BN.

So I maintain, neither of them should be called 65, and neither of them are RB, based on the images I see in this thread.

 

To me, the second coin is really pretty. Love the image. He does great work.
I like both coins.

 

Call off the dogs Paddy-
The Men in Black are usually quite busy this time of year. Except for the Pug

 

Thank you Tonya!

 

And I'm quite sure that the decision of the judges is finial....like my view of a pompous self appointed know it all.....so called expert....who has proven many times over that sometimes it better to be silent then to opens ones mouth ,and prove to all that you're nothing more than an internet troll!
You really need to step off and get over yourself!.......there are many members here on Coin Talk whom have written books, on this Subject as well as others....I don't see another one who has being as pompous as you are!
You opions and or views mean "nada" to me as well other members who are just fed up with your holier than thou attitude! Get a life !! no one here" has passed on" to my knowlege and passed any leadership roles on to you.

Time to throw the iggy switch...on this one.

 

Some may see it as pompous, others may see him as standing by his grade. But since he qualified it by saying, "based on the images," then he gets a pass, Paddy. Right?

 

Is everyone pompous that doesn't agree that the coin is RB?
I am having a hard time seeing enough original red in the coin. I see a 64 but there is just too much brown, to be called RB. For some reason you took it as a personal hit, and I am sure that more than a few are wondering why, instead of just backing it up with better photos that show the red.

 

I agree with the numerical grades on both, as well as the BN designation for the one on the left. Honestly, I'd have to see the one on the right in hand to make a determination for 100% sure if it's BN or RB.

 

There is no consistency with PCGS when it comes to RB or BN. I've seen coins with almost identical colors designated BN on one and RB on the other

I realize these are proofs, but it illustrates how inconsistent they are with their RB/BN designations

BN

PR67BN


PR67BN



RB

PR67RB


PR68RB

 

PCGS says RB can be a coin anywhere between 5% and 95% Red. I realize the OP coins are ANACS, but Paddy's coin falls within that range, I'd say.

 

@robec
So your saying that this designation is used as more or less a bonus to the coin? Anacs is calling this a better than average brown? I say that because although I see red in @Paddy54 's photo I am having a hard time still with it being RB there must be some deep red colors molded into the brown areas. If so I can see that it should get the designation.

@C-B-D
Sure seems that PCGS has left themselves a lot of room for leeway. They must have a special coin in the grading room. Might as well be left up to a coin toss.

 

I totally missed that these were two different coins!

 

Carbon spot on the neck, few obverse field distractions. Disturbances along the rim at 9 o'clock, slight lamination along rim or damage. Cartwheel luster?

It's a beautiful woody in my eyes!

WG-65

TPG 63BN

 

Very attractive coin! I like it as a 66 but seems the TPG's are tough on molted toning.

65RB

 

This was just rude, unnecessary, and a very low blow. I have known and talked to Jason for several years, and consider him a mentor in this field. He possesses an extremely sound knowledge of numismatics and is far from a “troll”...... He is also extremely generous and honest about sharing his knowledge, and tells it like it is. Nothing in his posts were rude. I don’t always agree with him, but to blatantly slam someone who has contributed to the hobby as much as he has is quite upsetting. It’s funny how you tell him to “get over himself” when it’s obvious you need to yourself, Paddy.

 

We defend our coins like our children, @1916D10C. Don't get too bothered by it. It's just the yankee in him!