GTG - 1905 Gold $20 Lib

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ToughCOINS, Sep 18, 2019.

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What do you grade this?

  1. AU58

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  2. MS61

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. MS62

    4 vote(s)
    44.4%
  4. MS63

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  5. MS64

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  6. MS65

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  7. Details

    1 vote(s)
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  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    This coin is in a different company's holder. While neither a PCGS nor an NGC coin, I wanted to see what you all think of it.

    20.00-1905-1.jpg 20.00-1905-2.jpg
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2019
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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D U.S. Type Coins or death!

    MS61 or 2 but tooled.
    20190918_213033.jpg
     
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  4. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    61. Hope John isn’t right (though I wouldn’t bet against him)
     
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  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Weak strike, dull luster, and a whole heck of a lot of contact marks. It doesn't look like wear, so I'm at 61.
     
  6. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    I' m in the 62 camp for this scarce date.
     
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  7. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I was shocked to actually receive a very nice coin.

    It is not tooled, as John surmised.

    20.00-1905-3.jpg
     
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  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    Unfortunately I have to make it down to a 60 /61 due to the slab it is in....this is automatic for me to due so in an ICG slab they seem to over grade always.
    I won't most times buy a ICG slab coin.
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I understand, as I myself rarely bother with them. That is why I was shocked at how nice this coin is when I saw it in person.
     
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  10. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Should cross in a NGC/PCGS MS62 holder...just my two cent.
    Nice coin...;)
     
  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I think that would cross as an MS-63 or 64 unless the photo is not showing us something. At the risk of upsetting people, I'll show you these two graded pieces.

    MS-63

    1896$20O.JPG 1896$20R.JPG

    MS-64

    1907D$20GoldO.JPG 1907D$20GoldR.JPG
     
  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Well, I'm surprised.
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    And if I was the owner of this piece I would leave it as is ,and sell it as is....as trying to cross over may prove to be a bad choice with pcgs,or ngc.
    Well no matter raw or slabed I am always selling the coin for what it is , not the assigned grade by a tpg.
     
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