GTG - 1904-O Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by GeorgeM, Mar 12, 2021.

  1. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't of guessed that high nice morgan. 20210312_190007.jpg
     
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  3. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Just a reminder - don't let toning distract you from surface details. Some of these coins literally sat in wet burlap sacks for 60 years at the bottom of a vault, untouched & unloved. This is one of those with a Poe-esque story written all over it, and luster still peeking through the darkness!

    The reverse is also true - don't let a blast white surface distract from wear and tear (or, even worse, rainbow toning).
     
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  4. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Marked "Best Answer". I'd have been hard pressed to guess the slabbers saw an MS65 coin here from pics alone.
     
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  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Better pictures do help.
     
  6. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I think you're taking that serving of crow a bit salty, don't you?
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    See what I mean? Technically she was strong, in spite of what her pictures showed.
     
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  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    No, presenting a coin in its best possible manner is most productive. If you stay around here, we’ve all eaten crow happily. Just some advice from a very experienced Morgan collector. Bad pictures make a coin look bad. Moreover, there are different kinds of toning. That coin does not have marketably desirable toning. Cheers! :)
     
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  9. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Certainly not trying to pick a fight, but the difference between "high AU" & MS65 is not due to any of my (many) photographic failings.

    We've all misjudged a coin before in a quick glance. This one had me look from the coin to the label and back again before I recognized I was falling into the toning discounting trap. I could even go a step further and question if there's a bit of unconscious bias creeping into how we view coins in this hobby largely dominated by older white guys (I'm rapidly aging into that camp myself). Heck - why do some collectors refer to a clean *silver* field as "blast white"?

    I shared the coin here in the hopes that others might see the same thing I do & look deeper at some of these storied pieces.
     
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  10. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Not the toining it just seems to be a weaker strike and mushy detail,looks different than my MS morgans.
     
  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I respect that. I was just trying to be supportive and lobby for better pictures. It is a nice coin.
     
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I've seen a few of these before (darker photo and darkish/crusty toning) that have been 64s or 65s so I went 65 here as well. I'm not the biggest fan of these (in terms of adding to my collection), but I do think the grade is fair (and might have actually been higher if it was blast white).
     
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