GTG: 1899 P Morgan Dollar

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Grade and comments.

  1. AU 55

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  2. AU 58

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  3. MS 60

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  4. MS 61

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  5. MS 62

    2 vote(s)
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  6. MS 63

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  7. MS 64

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  8. MS 65

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  9. MS 66

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  10. +

    1 vote(s)
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  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    You know what to do. Comments welcome! One of my favorites, and an underrated date for Morgans.

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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I'm gonna say MS66PL... the chatter on the obv and rev keep me from saying 67-68.. and that doubled cartwheeling makes me think PL DMPL
     
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  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I'm going low 62 and can't guess PL by these pictures im not seeing it.
     
  5. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    '64 plain
     
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  6. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Pretty. 63
     
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  7. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

  8. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis College Dorm Collector Supporter

    MS63 is what I put. Wouldn't be surprised with 64 either though
     
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  9. William F

    William F Well-Known Member

  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 63....a little baggy but nice for a 63
     
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  11. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I think the obverse is 62 and reverse upper end of 63 I’m going to guess a nice 62 off that I really like this coin though. Ok seeing it on my computer I’m going to say 63 possibly 63+
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2021
  12. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted Supporter

    Nice, but MS63 or 64 max. No PL.
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Beautiful coin. MS-65
     
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  14. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    MS-64. Obverse dragged it down a bit.
     
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  15. Santinidollar

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  16. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I think it just misses 64...going with 63+.
     
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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Let’s make this a teachable thread for the newer collectors. Since most are in the ballpark, let us break down the elements in grading a Morgan. First, Morgans do have bagmarks. That is a given, based on storage. Second, they tend to exhibit cartwheel luster. Third, strike quality is very variable. Given that this is a Philadelphia mint, it has a solid strike. So, in grading this coin, let’s take crucial factors into consideration:

    Surface preservation obverse/ reverse. Is there wear or none? Are there typical, distracting or no obvious distracting marks?

    Strike-obverse/reverse. Strong, average, weak, problematic. Key points of the coin that display strike, such as Eagle’s breast, hair, cap, etc.

    Luster- obverse/reverse. Brilliant, strong, medium, low, impaired

    Eye appeal-obverse/reverse. Extraordinary, strong, good, average, below average, substandard.

    Distractions and problems that would lower grade.

    Assets that would raise grade.

    Feel free to break it down for the newer Morgan collectors.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2021
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  18. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'm just wondering about this spot, because it looks recessed to me. Or not???
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  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is a shadow.
     
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  20. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'm not a teacher, but some basics....the centers on the Morgan dollar have high relief areas on both sides. Strike weakness often shows up here on one or both sides, (as it took a lot of metal to fill here), though sometimes it shows up elsewhere. This coin has a strong strike, note the crisp breast feathers and the hair above the ear.
    Liberty's cheek is important to the grade. Unmarred "clean cheeks" are coveted, and due to being stored in bags, and shuffled around on occasion, most Morgans picked up "bag marks". There doesn't appear to be anything too heavy on the op coin, mostly just some luster grazes.
    The coin appears to have nice luster, kind of satiny, and is attractive.
     
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  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Very good analysis.
     
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