GTG 1899 O

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pickin and Grinin, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Nose chin cheek and neck ticks. Ms63. Rest of coin quite special. Hope I'm just to picky
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    If that is the case, how did it get the green bean seal of approval? You have to trust that I didn't see them as more than a slight abrasion until I got the coin under the lens they don't even flash.
    If they did. I would have called BS myself and not bought the coin.
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks, that photo was really ticking me off.
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I agree with the "major distractions" but the photo exaggerates the contact marks.
     
  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    If that is your grade. I will buy all your MS 65's:happy:
     
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  7. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I didnt see that coming. I was actually having a hard time seeing any frosting on this one. It must be really nice in-hand or the almighty really screwed the pooch on this one. I mean someone, somewhere SHOULD get the axe for this egregious mistake !! Either that or those cheek, neck, and eye hits look WAY better in-hand than they do in the photos(?)
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I'd have to agree with you, judging the photo, I would have guessed the same as just about all of you, Although they are barely noticed. and yes, it is coated pretty thick in luster.
     
  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Which coin did you grade? ;-)
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2018
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  10. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    The photo on page 2 (the reveal photo) shows the coin differently. There are nowhere near as much going on on the cheek in #2, and based on that pic, I can easily see the 66. Very nice coin.
     
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  11. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I wondered if the pic really accentuated the cheek as the rest of the coin is so clean. I can see the 66 grade if it’s better in hand. The cheek to me left it as a really high end 65 to me. I’m not much of one for guessing the plus grades without knowing which gen holder it is as they’re rather recent
     
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  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    The issue with very light marks is that the light reflecting the luster into the lens is being reflected away from the lens by those marks. Because of this, you get a much larger contrast than normal. It's possible to hide those marks or at least make them not as harsh, but you need the coin out of the plastic to really do it properly.
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I dont blame you.
     
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I winged it. Why
     
  17. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I don’t think it should have graded 66+ either, but 63 is way too low for a Morgan with such clean fields and superb luster. CAC approved it at 66 so the hits can’t be too bad.
     
  18. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I agree with you. It's a lovely coin but with that hit on the cheek...right on the focal point of the coin...it's graded too high. I'd be at 65 max. But, it's a lovely coin.

    Another thing too...the strike here isn't overly fantastic for a 1899-O. Sometimes we see a grade bump due to strike quality or great luster. The coin is nearly full struck...but that's not uncommon for 1899-O Morgans. It does look to have very nice luster though.

    For me, that cheek hit really limits this coin. I can see it as a very nice 65...but a 66+ is too high in my opinion.
     
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  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Must be nicer in hand. I like the coin a lot, but based on the pictures, I just did not see anything close to 66+. It has very nice luster, but a slightly below average strike. I said 64, but could have just as easily seen a 65. Green bean definitely deserved. I would love to see the coin in hand, as opposed to virtually.
     
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  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Do you know if CAC factors in the "+" into their grade? The reason I ask is...if so, CAC is saying this coin is "solid" for a 66+ and to me that seems like a stretch.

    If they ignore the "+"...then one would think that any coin with a "+" would sticker. To me, 66+ means "nearly a 67" which this coin is not.
     
  21. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    CAC ignores +'s when evaluating a coin. There have been coins with +'s that don't get the bean. CAC could in fact believe that that a coin with a + is only a B coin within that grade and still get a bean. The + is only a designation assigned the the TPGS. The only additional designation that CAC takes into consideration when evaluating a coin are strike designations and color designations such as FSB, FBL, FS, RD, RB and so on...
     
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