gtg 1896 morgan ngc old fatty

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  1. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Thanx for sharing buddy.. that actually brings this to a great point,,, you have to know the characteristics for each date and MM to properly evaluate and grade morgans... nice coin btw i think both our coins.compare nicely to one another.... thanks again
     
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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Wow, I didn't see that one coming. I would have guessed 64 from the overall surfaces--not a super strike, and some chatter here and there. Would not have thought a 65. Oh well!!!
     
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  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Chatter??? Maybe i need to use a camera instead of my phone for pics... to me chatter is several light scratches in a concentrated area.... this coin shows no such thing... its that super dark toning where it was no doubt been up again a canvas bag for a prolonged timeframe... its giving it a weird rubbed/scuffed look.. thats my only regret with this one,,,,.if the obv.matched the rev. I feel this could go 66+ easily... but i actually love this coin... in hand it has a great combintaion of eye appeal/luster/toning... its just got that look...but thanx 4 replying and being honest... everyone else scattered like roaches lol
     
  5. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    Hard to tell but maybe 64
     
  6. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Yea it went 65... im finding that toned coins are hard to view w cell phone pics,, i wont even bother to put my other toners on here until i find the usb for my camera
     
  7. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    I don't think it's a matter of cell phone pics. I can get some nice photos using my phone. I the issue with your images is the lighting.
     
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  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Some toners even the best lighting will not show the coin as it really is - just because of the toning and how it looks. Me - from the first set of photos I would have guessed AU, but would not argue with an MS grade without seeing the coin in hand. I have seen a couple like this at the local coin shop - while I believe they are MS, I would not buy them just because of the toning and the way it made the coin look in hand. Still nice looking coin.
     
  9. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Any recommendations on a cheap light i could pick up for photos?? C H E A P
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    You simply need two gooseneck desk lamps with you choice of bulb. I prefer florescent bulbs because they work well with my camera. Place the lights at 10 & 2 and try to ensure that the light does not overlap the coin and then snap away. Here is a photo I took with my iPhone4 several years ago using that setup.

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    For toned coins, I often place a coin or poker chip under the bottom of the slab in order to slightly angle the face of the coin into the lights. Many people add a third light at 6 o'clock for large coins like Morgan Dollars.
     
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  11. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Thank.you very much brotha...dually noted
     
  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    There... now it has been dually noted. ;)

    Seriously though, WalMart carries a fairly decent gooseneck lamp (with metal shade and weighty base) for around $7, or at least they were a few years ago. Either way though, they're cheap and should last you a good many years.
     
  13. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

  14. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Target also carries cheap desk lamp / gooseneck lamps, which I use. $15 each or so. I recommend CFL bulbs, around 5000k. 23watt will give you like 1200 lumens each, alot of light.
     
  15. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I use two gooseneck lamps with CFLs also. I probably paid $20 for the pair at Menards several years ago.
     
  16. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    image.jpg image.jpg I really couldn't tell much from the pics. To me looked like wear. Better pics If I saw the luster and whether there was actual wear or weak strike. My 1896
     
  17. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Nice coin,,,.i was under the.impression.that.this.date wasnt known.for.real nice toners.. ur.coin shows some.of.the.same.weakness.on hair/cotton bolls as the others.. ..interesting. ....thx.4.sharing.........im off to the jackets game!! Great seats.,.10 rows from ice!!:shame:
     
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  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Sounds like fun. There's some decent 96 toners out there if you look hard. I buy morgans primarily for toning
     
  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    There is no chance that that coin would go 66, with a below average strike and obvious contact marks on the obverse fields.
     
  20. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I never said it FO SHO WOULD GO 66!!! I said.if.the obv/rev matched... as in color.. and u.dont know.that FO SHO either ..if you paid attention u would see this date seems to be a lil weakly struck.......,,,,,,,,,,contact marks on obverse fields??? Ur seeing ghosts man ......surface.pres. ,,...eye appeal could upgrade it.on a given day.. cause shes a looker......im naming her blueberry....chocolate....blue jackets won 4-3 ... it was a great hockey game to attend!! Thanx all 4 sharing/ discussing!!
     
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  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    No, I am not seeing ghosts-- they are there. Just accept that it is a nice MS 65, and don't go all ape over it.
     
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