While we're guessing the grade, is this coin considered. . . 1. A world coin? 2. A U.S. coin? 3. A pre-U.S. coin?
Interesting. FWIW, I've always respected your opinion. You'd really consider this a U.S. coin? I wanted so bad to put this thread in the U.S coins forum, but I thought I'd get flamed!
I especially liked the eye appeal of this coin. Most of them I see are, well, a bit crusty. Crusty or not, still an awesome coin IMHO. And it's from my favorite place on the planet!
[QUOTE="DUNK 2, post: 2532383, member: 30597"It's from my favorite place on the planet![/QUOTE] Mine too . . . Went to Kauai 3 years ago, and am dying to go back.
Fantastic quarter! It is out of my league. Even with the rub on his eye brow, I would say still a 65, maybe 66, depending how they influenced commerce.
Mine too . . . Went to Kauai 3 years ago, and am dying to go back.[/QUOTE] Kauai is gorgeous. If you haven't been to Maui, I'd recommend giving that island a try. Maui is more developed than Kauai, but very beautiful. Oahu is probably my favorite, but a bit too congested for some.
I doubt that would grade higher than MS-64. The sideburns/chops look to have clashing, along with the rub on the browline and the slightly lighter strike on the reverse. The two clashes on the neck aren't severe enough to drag it down to MS-63, but they definitely prevent the coin from getting a + or 65 grade. I don't know enough about how CAC passes out beans to really know, but I assume it'd get a green bean, as it looks much nicer than a MS-63, but is clearly not MS-65.
I'm thinking it wears that 64 grade rather well. CAC would very likely agree. I share your concern about the brow, and there seems a little "busyness" on the neck as well, but a green bean should be appropriate.
Since when do die clashes affect the grade of a coin? Edit: Nevermind, those don't seem to be die clashes.
I wasn't sure what to call them. I didn't call them die clashes. I meant, clashes... like when coins hit each other in a pile.