GTG-1871 Liberty Seated Dollar

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  1. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    A couple of months ago, I walked into the Lakeland, Florida Collect-o-Rama show with a few thousand in cash burning a hole in my pocket. But I was really looking for a few relatively low-cost coins for my type set (1909 VDB Cent in MS-65, etc.). I wasn't mentally prepared to spend several thousand dollars on one coin.

    So, one of the coins I've been looking to add to my type set is a Liberty Seated Dollar w/Motto. I found one at West Coast Coin's table, a fabulous coin by any estimation but at about what I thought was a $1000 premium to the "going rate". Anyway, way too much money for my mental preparation for the show. So, I passed and a few tables away, I found the coin displayed herein.

    This is just a hole-filler and I make no pretensions to its desirability but it came at a good price.

    It is housed in an ICG slab and I would be appreciative of your thoughts on its grade and any thing else you would care to opine on. DSC_1106.jpg DSC_1107.jpg
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    XF40 i like it nice coin,one I still need and dream about.
  4. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    XF-40 Details, cleaned
  5. William F

    William F Well-Known Member

    XF45, pretty nice for a hole filler :)
  6. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    EF-Details, cleaned. Nice coin though.
  7. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

  8. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    How do you two see it as cleaned?is it the odd color.
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    EF details, cleaned. Old cleaning and retoning. If it isn’t details, you got off lucky. Still a very nice looking coin. If it is straight graded EF 40.
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  10. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member


    Nice coin. About 2% of me would want to say details because of the scratch across the obverse shield, but I don't think it's distracting or severe enough to get the details hit.
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I think it got a 35. Nice coin.
  12. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    I agree completely, that's why I said what I did. The unnatural luster (toning) in the protected areas (for example, around the stars) are a dead giveaway.
  13. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Check all devices. No hint of accumulated grime. Clean denticles. The coin has had a past cleaning and re-toned.
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  14. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

  15. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I see it now but ill stick with my gut and say it got a pass.
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  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm thinking that the cleaning was so long ago that it got a straight grade. Coins with this look seem to go either way.
  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    That is why I am hedging—my initial impression was an EF details coin. However, it could have passed, and made the grade as an EF 40.
  18. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    I understand ICG is tough on cleaned coins.
  19. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Everybody got really close on this one. I appreciate all the comments. The coin is straight-graded by ICG at EF-40. I agree that it had an old cleaning that wasn't so harsh that it couldn't recover and then get straight-graded.

    For those so inclined, this is the OC-2 die marriage and an R-3 coin, even though the 1871 is the most common of the With Motto dates. I have included my attribution photos below.

    DSC_1106-side.jpg Obverse Date Grid.jpg Reverse A Curved Die Line at Base of T.jpg
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  20. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Nailed it first one:):),I think some of you need a cleaning.
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