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Message:: [QUOTE="johnmilton, post: 4594335, member: 101855"]I'm usually not into starting "guess the grade" strings, but I'm stuck at home in another wave of pandemic sickness so, what the heck? I am a fan of the the 1864 Bronze Cent. When the Philadelphia Mint switched from the copper-nickel to the bronze cents, they used the same group of dies to make the first bronze cents which did not have the "L" for "Longacre" on the ribbon. Later in the year, Longacre re-did his artwork and signed it with a tiny "L" that few people noticed. If they had noticed it, they probably would have raised a stink about it, like they did when Victor D. Brenner signed his Lincoln Cent design. The 1864 Bronze Cent is actually a minor one year type. The point of the bust of the Indian is shaped differently, and the "L" is not on the coin. Few people recognize that as a type. During my last show as a dealer, I had an 1864 Bronze out for sale that I intended to keep if it didn't sell. As it turned out another dealer bought it. It was the last coin I sold that day. Later, I decided to get another one, along with the the other two 1864 cents. Here it is. So what do you think it grades. We can discuss rarities later. [ATTACH=full]1137722[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1137723[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]