GTG: 1830 Capped Bust Half Dime

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  1. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    I agree with LM-9.2, and I’ll wager a guess of AU58. Nice find!
     
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1829 Bust Half Dime_nolabel.jpg 20180516_220350.jpg t 20190214_111719.jpg 1845 h-10-002 rev..jpg Here are two examples 1 a cap bust h 10 the other an 1845/45 seated h 10.
    The 1829 in xf 45 from pcgs shows the wear on the high points to compare with the op's 1830 coin. The 1845 /45 seated ms 62 I posted to show the mottled reverse which was almost a hard pass due to eye appeal, but price and grade plus a nice variety made me pull the trigger.
    But again this coin was dipped at one point to lighten up the toning.
     
    Paddy54, Sep 22, 2019
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  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    20190922_103839.jpg ms- 62 20190922_103808.jpg compare the two wings for wear.
     
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    Paddy54, Sep 22, 2019
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  5. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Agree a 58 min.
     
    chascat, Sep 22, 2019
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  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Very, VERY hard photos to read. Without seeing where the luster is and isn't, I am reluctant to hazard a guess, but will try to rationalize a grade using other information.

    Based on the uniformity of the toning, how prevalent it is across low-lying areas where oxygen was more available, and absent on the higher points where the coin was almost certainly in close proximity to paper, I think the coin spent the majority of its life in a coin envelope, and came from an old collection.

    The dearth of circulation marks on the rims and in the open fields, where they should reasonably be expected, leads me to believe the coin is fully uncirculated.

    Combined with the powerful strike, the few noticeable marks in focal areas have me at MS62, down from a technical MS63.

    I wish we could better see the luster, as this coin would undoubtedly be much easier to grade.
     
    ToughCOINS, Sep 22, 2019
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  7. schnickelfritz48

    schnickelfritz48 Well-Known Member

    AU-55
     
    schnickelfritz48, Sep 22, 2019
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  8. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    as others have said, can't judge the luster; I don' tsee any real wear, maybe a trace of high point rub... 58?
     
    ksparrow, Sep 22, 2019
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  9. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The reveal! IMG_0544-down.JPG IMG_0545.JPG IMG_0546.JPG
     
    C-B-D, Sep 22, 2019
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    58+ seems like a PCGS cop-out... "yeah, this is a really nice coin. We're not sure... Eh, split the difference?"
     
    physics-fan3.14, Sep 22, 2019
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  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    When it comes time to sell tho... a 58+ may net me 64 money in this "everyman set" market.
     
    C-B-D, Sep 22, 2019
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
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  13. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I wax torn between a crusty 63 and 58. I think that coin could easily go 62-3. Nice original and an absolutely crushed strike from fresh dies. Full star centrils and full hair details which is rare for any bust coin. I like it
     
    Mainebill, Sep 23, 2019
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  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well I can't say I've ever seen a 58 + on a half dime slab,add to that an R-5 die marriage. Yeah I do believe to the right buyer you may seem more $ than Au money. Neat coin....sort of a hammered ulgy duckling due to the toning.
     
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  15. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I saw that, but I could not tell if it was wear or strike weakness

    Here’s a 62 I used to own. I miss it. :/

    B2ED3D3F-99D1-4358-8DA2-64F2244D2C30.jpeg 2902DF42-242E-451C-98EE-8A0425245996.jpeg
     
    TypeCoin971793, Sep 23, 2019
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  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I was told years ago by an old man that's the sure way to tell on bust coinage.
    That upper right wing wear.
     
    Paddy54, Sep 23, 2019
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  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    It's an LM-5 obv. 2 rev Z. An R-3
     
    Paddy54, Sep 23, 2019
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  18. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I look there, but I check for breaks in the luster. I simply could not tell on this coin.
     
    TypeCoin971793, Sep 23, 2019
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  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    It is a hard coin to read...and again that mottled tone is like camo it hides alot.
     
    Paddy54, Sep 23, 2019
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  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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    C-B-D, Sep 25, 2019
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  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Nice coin John...even better variety.:cigar:
     
    Paddy54, Sep 25, 2019
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