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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2436070, member: 24314"]SuperDave says: Yes, y'all are both (rzage also, who apparently doesn't listen when I make posts like this one, which are quite regular) quite possibly right....and that's when you go back to my original comment about drawing too complete a conclusion from questionable images. <span style="color: #b30000">IMHO <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, there is absolutely NOTHING QUESTIONABLE in the image of this Bust half. It is a coin with friction wear on the high points, an AU as most posters agree.</span>I'm very much bothered by what look like very abrupt transitions from Mint State luster to complete lack of shine in places <span style="color: #b30000">I'm not bothered at all as the "lack of shine" from the DULL GRAY PATCHES on the coin's high points is "friction wear" caused by who knows what that makes the coin a "Technical Graded" AU</span>, and far from confident that what I'm seeing is an accurate representation of the in-hand coin.</p><p> </p><p>If it's wear<span style="color: #b30000"> it absolutely is.</span>, does that mean it circulated <b>after</b> it toned? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <span style="color: #b30000">Here is a clue. Whenever a coin that is toned becomes subject to friction from whatever the cause - the toning is disturbed! Sometimes it is completely removed (the case here). With the passage of time it may tone again BUT the area of original toning and the area that was rubbed and retoned USUALLY look different. </span>And if it did, why isn't any of the patina - which ought to wear off within seconds of handling <span style="color: #b30000">this is too crazy to even comment on. </span>- worn off anywhere else? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <span style="color: #b30000">Here is another clue. The high points show wear (as on this coin) before anywhere else.</span>And why isn't it also worn off of the usual-suspect parts <span style="color: #b30000">? </span>of the obverse? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>If urging caution about being too positive based on one set of suspect images is "my way or the highway," it probably <b>should</b> be my way or the highway. But you guys just go ahead and be as sure as you want. It's your money. <span style="color: #b30000">...and money spent on a well grounded numismatic education is well spent. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #b30000">IMO: </span>This post is making a nursery school concept Wear vs Weak Strike that can be taught/demonstrated in a matter of minutes into some sort of college level philosophical babbling that I'm too ignorant to figure out. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I hope my comments here don't add to the confusion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2436070, member: 24314"]SuperDave says: Yes, y'all are both (rzage also, who apparently doesn't listen when I make posts like this one, which are quite regular) quite possibly right....and that's when you go back to my original comment about drawing too complete a conclusion from questionable images. [COLOR=#b30000]IMHO :rolleyes:, there is absolutely NOTHING QUESTIONABLE in the image of this Bust half. It is a coin with friction wear on the high points, an AU as most posters agree.[/COLOR]I'm very much bothered by what look like very abrupt transitions from Mint State luster to complete lack of shine in places [COLOR=#b30000]I'm not bothered at all as the "lack of shine" from the DULL GRAY PATCHES on the coin's high points is "friction wear" caused by who knows what that makes the coin a "Technical Graded" AU[/COLOR], and far from confident that what I'm seeing is an accurate representation of the in-hand coin. If it's wear[COLOR=#b30000] it absolutely is.[/COLOR], does that mean it circulated [B]after[/B] it toned? :rolleyes: [COLOR=#b30000]Here is a clue. Whenever a coin that is toned becomes subject to friction from whatever the cause - the toning is disturbed! Sometimes it is completely removed (the case here). With the passage of time it may tone again BUT the area of original toning and the area that was rubbed and retoned USUALLY look different. [/COLOR]And if it did, why isn't any of the patina - which ought to wear off within seconds of handling [COLOR=#b30000]this is too crazy to even comment on. [/COLOR]- worn off anywhere else? :rolleyes: [COLOR=#b30000]Here is another clue. The high points show wear (as on this coin) before anywhere else.[/COLOR]And why isn't it also worn off of the usual-suspect parts [COLOR=#b30000]? [/COLOR]of the obverse? o_O:confused: If urging caution about being too positive based on one set of suspect images is "my way or the highway," it probably [B]should[/B] be my way or the highway. But you guys just go ahead and be as sure as you want. It's your money. [COLOR=#b30000]...and money spent on a well grounded numismatic education is well spent. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#b30000]IMO: [/COLOR]This post is making a nursery school concept Wear vs Weak Strike that can be taught/demonstrated in a matter of minutes into some sort of college level philosophical babbling that I'm too ignorant to figure out. :( I hope my comments here don't add to the confusion.[/QUOTE]
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