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<p>[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 3214144, member: 78244"]I decided to look at your last message to see what straw you would grasp on to.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have <i>never</i> claimed to be an expert grader. I am extremely good at grading what I deal with (circulated classic US, UNC Morgans, some UNC classic US), but less so with stuff I shun (uber high grades, moderns, etc.). I have my limitations, so I do not claim to be an expert.</p><p><br /></p><p>My <i>only</i> claims regarding the performance of the TPGs is that 1) they let a lot of cleaned coins get straight grades, 2) they occasionally let coins with obvious damage get straight grades, 3) they occasionally overgrade coins, and 4) they occasionally undergrade coins. Each of these claims are independently verifiable and provable. If you choose to deny them, you would only be displaying your ignorance. Numbers 2-4 are just human errors and should not be used to villify the TPGs as a whole, just that they are not perfect and not to be blindly trusted.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have said that I agree with the number assigned 95% of the time. How exactly that fits into your vandetta that I think the TPGs are always wrong, I am not sure.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have also said that the only complaints that I have with the TPGs’ standards are 1) their line which dilineates market-acceptable damage and not, 2) grading AU coins as MS, and 3) giving a bump over a technical grade for eye appeal. For 1), my standards are much stricter. For 2), grading AU coins as UNC makes the term “uncirculated” null, and I do not believe that should be the case. For 3), the “eye appeal bump” causes confusion in the market where one has to decide if a coin graded MS-65 is just a premium MS-64 that got a bump, or if it is actually a premium MS-65.</p><p><br /></p><p>For the 1941 half, I did a GTG, and <i>not a single person</i> guessed below MS-65. That gave me confidence that NGC was wrong and the coin was worth cracking and resubmitting. <i>That </i>is why I was disappointed with the MS-62 grade.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/went-crazy-at-a-coin-show-gtg-x3.316742/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/went-crazy-at-a-coin-show-gtg-x3.316742/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/went-crazy-at-a-coin-show-gtg-x3.316742/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 3214144, member: 78244"]I decided to look at your last message to see what straw you would grasp on to. I have [I]never[/I] claimed to be an expert grader. I am extremely good at grading what I deal with (circulated classic US, UNC Morgans, some UNC classic US), but less so with stuff I shun (uber high grades, moderns, etc.). I have my limitations, so I do not claim to be an expert. My [I]only[/I] claims regarding the performance of the TPGs is that 1) they let a lot of cleaned coins get straight grades, 2) they occasionally let coins with obvious damage get straight grades, 3) they occasionally overgrade coins, and 4) they occasionally undergrade coins. Each of these claims are independently verifiable and provable. If you choose to deny them, you would only be displaying your ignorance. Numbers 2-4 are just human errors and should not be used to villify the TPGs as a whole, just that they are not perfect and not to be blindly trusted. I have said that I agree with the number assigned 95% of the time. How exactly that fits into your vandetta that I think the TPGs are always wrong, I am not sure. I have also said that the only complaints that I have with the TPGs’ standards are 1) their line which dilineates market-acceptable damage and not, 2) grading AU coins as MS, and 3) giving a bump over a technical grade for eye appeal. For 1), my standards are much stricter. For 2), grading AU coins as UNC makes the term “uncirculated” null, and I do not believe that should be the case. For 3), the “eye appeal bump” causes confusion in the market where one has to decide if a coin graded MS-65 is just a premium MS-64 that got a bump, or if it is actually a premium MS-65. For the 1941 half, I did a GTG, and [I]not a single person[/I] guessed below MS-65. That gave me confidence that NGC was wrong and the coin was worth cracking and resubmitting. [I]That [/I]is why I was disappointed with the MS-62 grade. [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/went-crazy-at-a-coin-show-gtg-x3.316742/[/url][/QUOTE]
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