GTG: 1813 Capped Bust Half

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So what's the explanation? Were the dies not "parallel"?

 

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misaligned. Yup.

 

45. Look at the feather details.

 

Sounds logical.
But I look at slabbed coins, I look at pcgs photograde, and trying to judge wear on the feathers from 30 to about 45+ is just confusing.

 

I’m not so sure. Don’t misaligned dies give you a coin that’s weak over an entire side? What you have here is what I’ve seen described as die “subsidence” — ie., the die giving away over an isolated area due to a previously-undetected internal flaw.

 

I'll guess 40. sharp detail in the hair curl over the eye,and eagle's claws.

 

Darn. Looks like i was way off. Thought i was giving you the benefit of the doubt. No harm intended. But i do love to guess

 

Now i wish i could answer smartly like that.

 

VF-20

 

A friend on a different forum just reminded me about a few things.
The dies for these couldn't be completely hubbed because of the limits of the screw press. The die required additional punching before it could be used.

 

I'm having problems posting here. Double post and can't edit.

 

VF 35

 

I'm still having trouble. Unable to insert quotes or images. I actually gave up last night.

 

Answer: XF45

 

Actually, this is a result of a misaligned hammer die. There simply wasn't enough force to effectively fill the gap between the two dies. If it was die subsidence the strike would only be affected on that one side such as on the 1814 102a. Note the lower left wing and leg feathers on the reverse while the corresponding area of Liberty's jaw and cheek on the obverse is still full.

 

Good answer. And that stinks

 

EF 45

 

Lol. C-B-D already showed the grade.

 

The thread is 2 pages. I think he graded before he read the whole thread like most of us do. IMO

 

If it's a good answer, why does it stink?