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<p>[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 8316966, member: 105571"]Yes, this is a dollar, not a half dollar. I assume the OP is contemplating buying this coin so my comments are addressed primarily around that possibility. </p><p><br /></p><p>A solid 25 in sharpness. Nice detail left on this coin and it only has a couple of minor rim dings to detract other than my condition comments below. I think the coin is genuine. This is the BB-27 die marriage which was struck up a bit better than other varieties which caused the hair and eagle breast feathers to wear a bit more for an equal degree of preservation which might cause the TPG to give the coin a little more leeway in grading than a different variety. But, in my opinion, not enough to raise the sharpness to 30 from 25.</p><p> </p><p>This is the most common of the 1795 Flowing Hair die marriages. Bowers estimates 2500 to 3500 BB-27s surviving in all grades. </p><p><br /></p><p>This coin has, to my eye at least, pretty obviously been cleaned. But that's not my main concern. The fields appear far too blemish-free for the grade suggesting that this coin might have been smoothed, particularly on the obverse. It's only a suspicion mind you since I'm not skilled, experienced or knowledgeable enough to give a credible opinion. But if I was submitting to a TPG, I would be much more concerned about a "Details-Altered Surfaces" finding than I would about a "Details-Cleaned" finding. That uncertainty would figure into my calculations for a purchase offer.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is also an expensive coin: PCGS lists a value of $8250 in VF-25 and Greysheet calls it $4000 in VF-20 and $9500 in XF-40, so call it $6000.</p><p><br /></p><p>In February, Heritage auctioned two 1795 BB-27s in VF, one cleaned and the other straight-graded VF-20, for $3600 and $5640 respectively.</p><p><br /></p><p>Prices of Flowing Hair dollars, IMO, are unwarranted given the quantity surviving but I know it's all about supply and demand. Plus, the prices for Flowing Hairs have gone way up over the last two years.</p><p><br /></p><p>Worth less than those ranges because it's raw and with the issues and questions I've raised.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, if the coin is already in the OP's possession, I would send it in for authentication, grading and TPG photos. Even if it comes back details, being in a slab will give peace of mind and improve marketability. And, if the OP does not want to keep it in a slab for whatever reason, crack it out and keep the slab for records and maybe a future owner. If it is cracked out, the TPG photos will help establish authenticity for a future buyer.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 8316966, member: 105571"]Yes, this is a dollar, not a half dollar. I assume the OP is contemplating buying this coin so my comments are addressed primarily around that possibility. A solid 25 in sharpness. Nice detail left on this coin and it only has a couple of minor rim dings to detract other than my condition comments below. I think the coin is genuine. This is the BB-27 die marriage which was struck up a bit better than other varieties which caused the hair and eagle breast feathers to wear a bit more for an equal degree of preservation which might cause the TPG to give the coin a little more leeway in grading than a different variety. But, in my opinion, not enough to raise the sharpness to 30 from 25. This is the most common of the 1795 Flowing Hair die marriages. Bowers estimates 2500 to 3500 BB-27s surviving in all grades. This coin has, to my eye at least, pretty obviously been cleaned. But that's not my main concern. The fields appear far too blemish-free for the grade suggesting that this coin might have been smoothed, particularly on the obverse. It's only a suspicion mind you since I'm not skilled, experienced or knowledgeable enough to give a credible opinion. But if I was submitting to a TPG, I would be much more concerned about a "Details-Altered Surfaces" finding than I would about a "Details-Cleaned" finding. That uncertainty would figure into my calculations for a purchase offer. This is also an expensive coin: PCGS lists a value of $8250 in VF-25 and Greysheet calls it $4000 in VF-20 and $9500 in XF-40, so call it $6000. In February, Heritage auctioned two 1795 BB-27s in VF, one cleaned and the other straight-graded VF-20, for $3600 and $5640 respectively. Prices of Flowing Hair dollars, IMO, are unwarranted given the quantity surviving but I know it's all about supply and demand. Plus, the prices for Flowing Hairs have gone way up over the last two years. Worth less than those ranges because it's raw and with the issues and questions I've raised. Now, if the coin is already in the OP's possession, I would send it in for authentication, grading and TPG photos. Even if it comes back details, being in a slab will give peace of mind and improve marketability. And, if the OP does not want to keep it in a slab for whatever reason, crack it out and keep the slab for records and maybe a future owner. If it is cracked out, the TPG photos will help establish authenticity for a future buyer.[/QUOTE]
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