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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2768205, member: 24314"]<span style="color: #5900b3">Lehigh96, posted: "When I saw you posting a bunch of gtg threads using Heritage photos, I assumed your goal was to in some way expose what you consider to be the inconsistencies of the grading system employed by the TPGs. Now, I have no idea what you are trying to do. You don't collect chain cents, and more to the point, I doubt if you have ever even seen one in hand, much less a high grade example like the one shown here. The TPGs know far more about these coins than you do and my guess is that you are going to embarrass yourself with your commentary in this thread."</span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Why the preamble? Do you two <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie79" alt=":rage:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> have a problem with each other? The OP posted a photo. Originally, I thought the coins were his. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> So it appears this is a simple GTG. So take a guess. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie90" alt=":spitoutdummy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> That's all that's going to be posted here - guesses <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> as most of us <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> are not qualified to put a commercial grade/value on it. I'm not <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> and you say in the next paragraph that you are not either. Besides, the coin is already graded by <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> folks who are qualified <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> to value it <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />and they back up their opinion with a guarantee of sorts.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">"Now that I have that off my chest, let me try to grade a coin from a series that I don't collect, have never seen one in hand, from an overexposed Heritage beauty shot. Using just fundamental numismatic grading skills with no knowledge of the series, I grade the coin XF45. There is wear on the highpoints of the coin but it is not enough to really impact the details of the design. The fields also show wear and seem not to have any real luster."</span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">It took a while <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> but now your talking! IMHO, you would make a great commercial grader and I'll bet the coin is graded 45 at the least! <b><span style="color: #b30000">It is a very attractive piece.</span></b> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> That said, I should not be shocked if that corroded <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, scratched-up <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> piece were not graded as a "commercial" AU-50. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">PS I know you hate faces and color but I had to get through the first part of your post so consider this pay-back. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2768205, member: 24314"][COLOR=#5900b3]Lehigh96, posted: "When I saw you posting a bunch of gtg threads using Heritage photos, I assumed your goal was to in some way expose what you consider to be the inconsistencies of the grading system employed by the TPGs. Now, I have no idea what you are trying to do. You don't collect chain cents, and more to the point, I doubt if you have ever even seen one in hand, much less a high grade example like the one shown here. The TPGs know far more about these coins than you do and my guess is that you are going to embarrass yourself with your commentary in this thread." [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]:rolleyes: Why the preamble? Do you two :rage: have a problem with each other? The OP posted a photo. Originally, I thought the coins were his. :confused: So it appears this is a simple GTG. So take a guess. :spitoutdummy: That's all that's going to be posted here - guesses :smuggrin::p as most of us :bucktooth: are not qualified to put a commercial grade/value on it. I'm not :( and you say in the next paragraph that you are not either. Besides, the coin is already graded by :greedy: folks who are qualified :bookworm: to value it :cigar:and they back up their opinion with a guarantee of sorts.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#5900b3]"Now that I have that off my chest, let me try to grade a coin from a series that I don't collect, have never seen one in hand, from an overexposed Heritage beauty shot. Using just fundamental numismatic grading skills with no knowledge of the series, I grade the coin XF45. There is wear on the highpoints of the coin but it is not enough to really impact the details of the design. The fields also show wear and seem not to have any real luster." [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]It took a while :yack::yack::yack::yack: but now your talking! IMHO, you would make a great commercial grader and I'll bet the coin is graded 45 at the least! [B][COLOR=#b30000]It is a very attractive piece.[/COLOR][/B] :happy: That said, I should not be shocked if that corroded :jawdrop:, scratched-up :jawdrop: piece were not graded as a "commercial" AU-50. :eek:o_O[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] PS I know you hate faces and color but I had to get through the first part of your post so consider this pay-back. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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