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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2293882, member: 24314"]Amen to that Cascade! First off, Newbie or not, I would put some YN's (Newbies) who have attended an ANA advanced grading class up against 70% of the coin dealers and 95% of the collectors in this country when it comes to grading coins and understanding the minting process.</p><p> </p><p>As I understand the process, roller marks are going to be present on any strip that goes through a rolling mill having "well-used" and grooved parts. They will appear on the blank striations with the same metallic color as the blank's surface. Any planchet with these marks that is not fully struck up will show the lines on the finished coin. I am not going to describe what original planchet striations look like again (see post above). Nevertheless, if the coin is in original condition or only slightly circulated, the lines will appear as they do on the CC dollar.</p><p> </p><p>It does not matter what got into GSA holders - we are only talking about this CC dollar which anyone should see is 100% original.</p><p> </p><p>I have said nothing about swirls which are not on this coin either.</p><p>I do see what looks like a reflection from the holder in the out-of-focus photo. There are no swirls on the sharp images. Also I have only said that the lines on the reverse were striations and not evidence of cleaning or PMD. Sean is correct. He has a nice original, interesting, probably 63 CC dollar. I cannot think of anymore to be said about this coin so I hope to meet some of you again on another topic.</p><p> </p><p>Guess I do have two more things. 1. Doug have you been converted?</p><p>And... 2. IMO (I'm slowly learning some of the "shorthand" you all use) any professional grader at a TPGS would be taken to the woodshed or sent to an ANA grading seminar if he detail graded a coin with roller marks![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2293882, member: 24314"]Amen to that Cascade! First off, Newbie or not, I would put some YN's (Newbies) who have attended an ANA advanced grading class up against 70% of the coin dealers and 95% of the collectors in this country when it comes to grading coins and understanding the minting process. As I understand the process, roller marks are going to be present on any strip that goes through a rolling mill having "well-used" and grooved parts. They will appear on the blank striations with the same metallic color as the blank's surface. Any planchet with these marks that is not fully struck up will show the lines on the finished coin. I am not going to describe what original planchet striations look like again (see post above). Nevertheless, if the coin is in original condition or only slightly circulated, the lines will appear as they do on the CC dollar. It does not matter what got into GSA holders - we are only talking about this CC dollar which anyone should see is 100% original. I have said nothing about swirls which are not on this coin either. I do see what looks like a reflection from the holder in the out-of-focus photo. There are no swirls on the sharp images. Also I have only said that the lines on the reverse were striations and not evidence of cleaning or PMD. Sean is correct. He has a nice original, interesting, probably 63 CC dollar. I cannot think of anymore to be said about this coin so I hope to meet some of you again on another topic. Guess I do have two more things. 1. Doug have you been converted? And... 2. IMO (I'm slowly learning some of the "shorthand" you all use) any professional grader at a TPGS would be taken to the woodshed or sent to an ANA grading seminar if he detail graded a coin with roller marks![/QUOTE]
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