Grr, bad eBay seller milking "DISABLED VET" status

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by -jeffB, Dec 15, 2019.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    What to do about a seller like this?

    Disabled Vet Selling 1927-D Key Peace Dollar 90% Silver** CHRISTMAS Gift **

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    I have no reason to question whether the guy actually served. And he may, in fact, be selling coins from other vets. BUT:

    1) He's "following" new listings for the same coin types and dates that he's selling, some with price limits -- in other words, looking for coins to buy on eBay.

    2) Every single coin he has for sale shows this same AT pattern.

    3) Every single coin he's recently sold shows this same AT pattern, except for:

    4) These two fake 1932-S quarters that he recently sold. "Found in rolls"? Well, I guess you can have a friend put your low-end Chinese fakes in rolls, then "find" them.

    5) Oh, yeah, and his neutral feedback includes four other listings of fake coins.

    While eBay obscures buyer identities now on feedback, it's not too hard to look at a seller's history and find feedback from an "anonymous" buyer with a particular feedback score (1442 for this seller this morning). So, it's easy to find...

    BEFORE:

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    AFTER:

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    So, this guy is buying low-end coins, ATing them garishly, and up-selling them in the name of disabled veterans. Look through his listings, and you'll find comments like this:

    "Yep, if anyone says anything bad about what I'm doing, it's because they HATE OUR VETERANS."

    This isn't technically "stolen valor" (making a false claim of military service or status), but it seems to me that it sits squarely in the same ethical red zone. Plus, the guy's trashing coins on an ongoing basis.

    Any suggestions on what to do, besides gritting my teeth and ignoring him when a new wad of his "finds" splatters across my eBay windshield?
     
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  3. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    It is a sad state. My business markets construction materials. I often bid against new upstart outfits that claim disabled vet status. I frequently am called later to come fix what they messed up when they undercut me. See, Veterans often have a 5% bid advantage over me. The heck of is that I too am a veteran. Though I have never used that status in my business.

    It is a sad state. We want to honor folks for their service, but we have made it far too easy for those without any moral compass to abuse people’s sincerity. Jeff, I don’t know what you could do other than ignore him.
     
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  4. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    Jeff, it is in all ways of life. The compass used to point the way forward for all men, now it points back at the holder deserves it all. More and more, even on this forum, people see nothing wrong in doing so, as long as they gain from it. Leadership used to be based on leading others, now its more about how to get the most for self and associates. Even in education, where I am , its generally me , me , me.....
    Jim
     
  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    Wow, that is a rotten apple for sure.
     
  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  7. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Personally I don't think it's proper to play any kind of "card" and you know what I'm referring to. Just stand up straight and be honest in your dealings in all forms of life and it will work to your advantage in the long run.
     
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  8. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    It seems there is no limits to how far some unscrupulous people will go to t r y to rip off others. :(
     
  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I wouldn't be nearly as worked up about it if he weren't so damned successful at it, judging from his completed listings. :rage:

    I keep saying "if it's that easy to get away with it, I should join them". Just can't do it, though. I guess it's a character flaw.
     
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  10. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    That's disgusting. A lot of my relatives are veterans, and it's people like this seller that bring shame upon that title. Serving your country is not an excuse to be a con man. I doubt that this character even is a veteran- a true veteran's honour would not allow him to lie and cheat others. I would report whatever this guy is selling.
     
  11. Terrifrompa

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  12. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    It's ebay so Caveat Emptor always.
     
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  13. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    ANY claimed "status" or sob story in an eBay item description makes me wary nowadays.
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    He’s demolished two 34-s Peace dollars. Really knows his coins.
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Wow.....that thing is 'baked' beyond belief.
     
  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I’m not too into this whole “extra respect for veterans” thing.

    1. It’s a volunteer corps. Nobody forced you to join, and you knew what you were signing up for. I don’t see people claiming “disabled construction worker” status even though that’s a common and underrepresented issue.

    2. “Veteran” is too general. You could have been in for 1 year and got medical discharged and still be considered a “veteran.” Hell, i was in college rotc, contracted, and officially an “E-2” as a cadet. I’m not a veteran.

    3. Going overboard with veterans dilutes the respect we should be giving to those who actually did something, not those who got discharged as a private m.
     
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  17. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer Well-Known Member

    Anyone who volunteered to protect our freedoms and Constitutional rights deserves the thanks I willfully bestow upon them. I also believe volunteering is more giving of oneself than being forcefully drafted BECAUSE they know what they're actually volunteering for. However, those who're drafted are no less patriotic and deserving of our gratitude.

    Thank you to all those who have served, are serving and will serve this great nation.
     
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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yep. You signed a blank check, made out to the government, good for an amount up to and including your life.

    I'm sure some people have signed up for selfish or misguided reasons. I still give them the benefit of the doubt.
     
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