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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 2906000, member: 84744"]Nope! I just discovered this is one of the few I hadn't photographed. It's a Gallienus, and after investigating it further just now, it really has me puzzled. Here's a quickie cellphone photo (on some funky felt):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]700972[/ATTACH](actually not a bad photo, maybe I will try that again sometime!)</p><p><br /></p><p>Sure looks like a fourrée, but on a Gallienus?!? Acsearch didn't turn up any fourrées of either Gallienus or Valerian, nor could I find info about any such thing elsewhere online. I figured it was just the effect (discussed on [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]'s page <a href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/isitfourree.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/isitfourree.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) of the strike producing a thin layer of fairly pure silver on the surface, which wore away in spots & corroded underneath. I put it aside as one of the lot's duds. (That's why I didn't have a photo.)</p><p><br /></p><p>But now I'm not so sure...</p><p><br /></p><p>1) First, it's from the joint reign period (PROVIDENTIA <u>AVGG</u>), so before 260, when the silver content was higher (maybe 20% or even a bit more)... so still barely worth counterfeiting perhaps, at least in volume.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) More importantly, <i>it's not in RIC</i>. The obverse legend is a bit tricky to make out, but there clearly isn't room for "IMP" or anything more extensive before "GALLIENVS PF AVG". I think that's the full legend (#6 in RIC, used in Lugdunum 256-9, Rome 260ish, and Milan 257-260ish). The reverse matches RIC 158-60 (Rome mint), but none of those have a plausible match to the obverse legend! No matches on acsearch either, or gallienus.net or gallienus.info or wildwinds. (The portrait style doesn't look like Rome to me either, but I'm not confident of that. The reverse type only occurs at Rome, or at Milan with a different legend.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Point 2 very strongly suggests this is an unofficial issue. In addition to point (1) and the fact that it very much looks plated, I am now leaning towards the view that this is indeed a fourrée. In which case it would be one of the last (silver) fourrées to have been produced before Diocletian's reforms! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I would be very interested to hear your opinion on this, [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER]... also [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] and [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER]... and anyone else!</p><p><br /></p><p>In any case, this has almost certainly gone from dud to keeper! Thanks for the prompt!![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 2906000, member: 84744"]Nope! I just discovered this is one of the few I hadn't photographed. It's a Gallienus, and after investigating it further just now, it really has me puzzled. Here's a quickie cellphone photo (on some funky felt): [ATTACH=full]700972[/ATTACH](actually not a bad photo, maybe I will try that again sometime!) Sure looks like a fourrée, but on a Gallienus?!? Acsearch didn't turn up any fourrées of either Gallienus or Valerian, nor could I find info about any such thing elsewhere online. I figured it was just the effect (discussed on [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]'s page [URL='http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/isitfourree.html']here[/URL]) of the strike producing a thin layer of fairly pure silver on the surface, which wore away in spots & corroded underneath. I put it aside as one of the lot's duds. (That's why I didn't have a photo.) But now I'm not so sure... 1) First, it's from the joint reign period (PROVIDENTIA [U]AVGG[/U]), so before 260, when the silver content was higher (maybe 20% or even a bit more)... so still barely worth counterfeiting perhaps, at least in volume. 2) More importantly, [I]it's not in RIC[/I]. The obverse legend is a bit tricky to make out, but there clearly isn't room for "IMP" or anything more extensive before "GALLIENVS PF AVG". I think that's the full legend (#6 in RIC, used in Lugdunum 256-9, Rome 260ish, and Milan 257-260ish). The reverse matches RIC 158-60 (Rome mint), but none of those have a plausible match to the obverse legend! No matches on acsearch either, or gallienus.net or gallienus.info or wildwinds. (The portrait style doesn't look like Rome to me either, but I'm not confident of that. The reverse type only occurs at Rome, or at Milan with a different legend.) Point 2 very strongly suggests this is an unofficial issue. In addition to point (1) and the fact that it very much looks plated, I am now leaning towards the view that this is indeed a fourrée. In which case it would be one of the last (silver) fourrées to have been produced before Diocletian's reforms! :jawdrop: I would be very interested to hear your opinion on this, [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER]... also [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] and [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER]... and anyone else! In any case, this has almost certainly gone from dud to keeper! Thanks for the prompt!![/QUOTE]
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