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Message:: [QUOTE="rhoggman, post: 398548, member: 13987"]Some people have a great way to make you understand what is really going on.... I like that one. I very rarely see dealers selling at greysheet ASK, in fact it would seem to me that dealers use greysheet more for their own pricing, and what they are willing to pay for something. I saw a couple people mentioning that greysheet was a wholesale price guide. Makes sense to me.  When I buy any kind of material I will shoot below greysheet, like a dealer, but I almost always find greysheet prices are not applicable to certified MS coins. What people are willing to pay on the open market for MS ,certified ,non-modern, US coin, is almost always higher than greysheet. In fact many internet dealers seem to do quite well using PCGS/ NGC price guides. MY local dealer seems to be able to sell certified coins pretty close to those guides as well. I refuse to overpay for coins, and I find that if you stay as close to greysheet ask as you can you can almost always walk away feeling like you have recieved a fair price. This is especially rewarding when the coin you paid $300 for lists in the PCGS price guide for $500+. Oh, and take whatever you want to a coin show if it is going to get you better deals like a leprachaun flute for example(JK). Also if some coin dealer wants to operate in his own little world, and make up his own prices so be it, but don't get taken advantage of.[/QUOTE]