Greek galleys Macedon rallies

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    Very pleased to show you my first AR Macedonian shield coin. Just received from Marc Breitsprecher (great dealer) for a song. And must've been delivered via satellite. Cause I paid for it and it practically dropped out of the sky into my grubby paws.
    I know I know. Your saying, Ryro, that coins been beat up more than Mike Tyson's speech therapist!
    To which I say (in a most smug voice), ya, but in all the right places.
    The trippy Philip V swirl boss looks great. While you can still see the general design of the shield. It's the PROW with the very easily readable "BOTTEATΩN" that in hand jumps right out at you (especially in this bright beautiful silver that's tricky to capture. Maybe due to it being crystalized?).
    FW Walbank says that these Bottiaean coins were minted in Pella (Birth place of Alexander the great and Philip V)!


    (Being charismatic, energetic, good looking and King of macedon made many at the time make the unachievable comparison of Philip V to Alexander)

    Sadly, Phily will be most remembered for choosing to side up with Hannibal during his invasion of Rome...oops!
    This and his sons repeated attacks on Rome and broken treaties supposedly forced Rome's seemingly complacent hand.
    But that's down the road.
    In his heyday, a young Dynamo named Philip, was sailing around the Aegean in those fast and stern gallies, was able to capture a number of islands and territories owned by Egypt at the time.
    Pergamum and Rhodes getting tired of being beaten up by the Macedonians, who had allied with Spartan pirates for their services in raiding rhodian freight, saw the writing on the wall and teamed up with other allies to defeat the Macedonians at the battle if Chios... Only to get trounced again a few months later at Lade! A period known as the beginning of the Cretan wars.
    This is the Philip V I like to think of looking at this coin:


    Philip V
    Bottiaiai (Spartolos) AR Pentobol. Circa 185-168 BC. Macedonian shield / Prow of galley right, on which BOTTEATΩN, ΘΕ below. BMC Macedonia p. 64, 3; SNG Evelpidis1207. 1.32g, 12.73mm.
    Good Very Fine. Former: M Breitsprecher
    This type was struck by Philip V of Macedon on behalf of the Bottiaeans.BMC Macedonia 3 type
    A nice example but crystalized and broken

    Share those silver sailing beauties, bronze ones as well, Philip V, broken but not beaten coins or anything you think will add to the thread and our collective intelligence!
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper Supporter

    Fantastic coin, @Ryro , and the whole Mike Tyson thing cracked me up.

    As you may already know, recently I added a ship of my own...

    C. Fonteius denarius

    And at the end of last year, I added another ship to my collection...

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    Marc Antony denarius

    Though I already had a Roman ship before that...

    Roman Sextans

    However, my first ship was Greek...:cigar::D

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    Euboea Histaea
  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Supporter! Supporter

    Great detail, very nice indeed.
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  5. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    My favourite tet was issued by Rhodes during the Cretan war against Philip. Wanna play conkers and see who wins?! :D

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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Marc Breitsprecher is a good guy, though I've had to struggle with learning to spell his surname ever since he dropped his "Ancient Imports" brand and went under his own name instead!
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  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Impressive coins here. I have a 'umble AE Macedonian shield from Philadelphia - it is one of my favorite small Greek AEs - in spite of (or because of?) it being off-center on the shield side.

    Philadelphia - Mac. Shield Oct 2018 (0).jpg

    Lydia, Philadelphia Æ 14
    (Semi-) Autonomous Issue
    (c. 100 B.C. - 14 A.D.)

    Macedonian shield, star in center / ΦIΛAΔEΛ-ΦEωN above and beneath winged thunderbolt, (Ρ?)ΠME monogram above, all within wreath.
    BMC 2-3; SNG Tuebingen 3738.
    (5.28 grams / 14 mm)
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Cool coin @Ryro ! Marc is always a great go-to Seller!

    Here are a couple later Roman Denarii from the Republic as “Rub-it-in” coins for defeating Macedonia...

    RUB-IT-IN Coins:
    RR T Quinctius Flamininus 126 BC AR Den Roma Diosc / T-Q, galloping over Macedon Shield S 143 Cr 267-1

    RR Aemilius Lepidus Paullus 62 BCE Concordia Perseus Macedon captive Sear 366 Craw 415-1
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  9. Shea19

    Shea19 Supporter! Supporter

    Nice one, @Ryro ! And great write-up. Always like buying from Marc, very good dealer.

    Here’s my only Philip V:

    Kings of Macedon, Philip V, Uncertain mint in Macedon, c. 183-179 BC,
    AE (19mm, 7.45g), Bearded head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ - ΦIΛIΠΠOY, Harpa; ΔΙ monogram above; all within wreath. SNG Alpha Bank 1116-9; SNG München 1186-1189.
  10. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Supporter! Supporter

    Philip V Didrachm struck circa 186 B.C. philipV-1.jpg
  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    AR Denarius
    REVERSE: ANTONINVS ET VERVS AVG REST, legionary eagle between two standards, LEG VI between
    Struck at Rome, 168AD
    3.81g, 20mm
    RIC III 443 (Marcus Aurelius) ; BMCRE 500
  12. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    Thanks all for the kind words and for sharing your BEAuuuutiful coins thus far!
    Cmon @Sallent, talk about some cherry coins, my man! MA denarii don't get any better... Except maybe in @Bing's day dreams!
    Here's my best:sorry:
    And then a recent Sexytans;) with a pretty fun prow and patina:

    @Severus Alexander, I don't know what conkers is, but that coin conquers my best Herakles coin. And that Zeus must've been drinking ambrosia with some type of steroids mixed in cause he is BUFF! It's been fairly recent that I've begun to understand just how talented the rhodian Celators were. Anyway here's my favorite drachm from abydos and a Zeus who looks more like a distance runner then a power lifter:

    I'm with you @Marsyas Mike (see above) off center coins can have a fun attraction about them. I like how your obverese looks like a solar eclipse in some strange alternate universe. But that reverse has some terrific detail! Here's mine of the type I recently showed in last week's thread on my new found obsession with getting as many shield types as I can:

    As always, GD Hilarious post with your rub it in coins and a couple RR beauties @Alegandron! Those Romans could be vindictive with their vendettas couldn't they?

    WoWiE @Shea19! Just an excellent Philip V right there:jawdrop:
    I really dig the harpa reverse. The man really had an obsession with the hero Perseus. Here's a lucky triple strike of Perseus holding 3 harpas... And 3 severed heads:eek: 0B4EB401-1A55-4CD3-9EE3-592062BD8FD2.png

    Wonderful portrait @Terence Cheesman:wideyed: and you can see the reverse is sprinkled with a bunch of monograms. I do wonder how we have been able to decipher what many of them mean (I LOVE Pyrrhos and Poliorketes).

    Ooh! Speak of the devil. Great MA right there! Excellent strike. Very cool toning. Thanks for breaking out the big guns @Bing!
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    And night dreams!!
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  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    koll coin & story Ryro!:)..i've got a couple o Greek boat ones..silver from Iboia & copper/bronze from Phoenicia Greek galley coins 005.JPG Greek galley coins 004.JPG
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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Here is an AE Maceodian prow...


    Macedonian Kingdom. Demetrios I Poliorketes. 306-283 B.C. AE
    O: Head of Athena right in crested Corinthian helmet. R: Prow right; above, BA; to right, bipennis; below, AP ligate. 16 mm, 2.6 g.
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