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Message:: [QUOTE="Coinsandmedals, post: 5412584, member: 107435"]I haven't had a chance to do a "deep dive" and I am not sure one is warranted. By most accounts, this piece seems to be in line with the basic diagnostics of the "Young Head Family" of contemporary counterfeits. According to my reference, these appear dated 1771, 1772, 1773, 1774, and 1775. The author notes that these pieces originated in London and made up the largest portion of the contemporary counterfeits that circulated in England. Matching diagnostics: <ul> <li>The "youthful" depiction of George III</li> <li>The relative tall Britannia figure on the reverse </li> <li>The author notes that certain years, including 1772, appear on slightly larger than average planchets (relative to others from the same family). </li> <li>The closed G's in the obverse legend </li> <li>The relative even spacing and consistency in the date </li> <li>The upright 7's </li> <li>The form and shape of what is supposed to be a "1" in the date. As the authors note, this is actually a "J" but this is impossible to tell on your example given the strike.</li> </ul>As you have already pointed out, the Machin Mills pieces can be dismissed as this piece does not match any of the widely established varieties. I know this is likely not the news you hoped for, but to any extent, you have an interesting piece that depicts a fascinating period of numismatic history.[/QUOTE]