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<p>[QUOTE="SRSNUM, post: 6416524, member: 102988"]I thought to supply additional information to strengthen the case. See additional description and images below.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>The case for a new variety entails a comparison with the known varieties at the Aboutfarthings.co.uk website.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>We start with the obverse of the coin in hand which exhibits a toothed border and 5 berries in the wreath. As a result, this limits the obverse to a choice of obverse 3 or obverse 3a from the Aboutfarthings site as these are the dies that exhibit a toothed border with 5 wreath berries. Elimination of both follows immediately as the coin in hand exhibits 1½ stops after the D of “F<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />”(see digital image). Obverse 3 exhibits 2 stops after “F<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />”. Obverse 3a exhibits no stops after “F<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />” . This seems sufficient to show the existance of a new obverse die for the coin in hand. </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>To add additional evidence for a new obverse die, the following differences are noted for the coin in hand that are not exhibited in obverse dies 3 & 3a :</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>The first ‘I’ in ‘VICTORIA’ is doubled at the top (see digital image).</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>The first ‘R’ in ‘BRITTANIAR’ is doubled at top left, bottom left & bottom right (see digital image).</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>The ‘R’ in ‘REG’ is doubled at top left, outside lower left of the upright & outside right of the upper loop (see digital image).</b></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><b>We now continue with the reverse of the coin in hand which exhibits a toothed border. There are 2 reverse dies indicated on the Aboutfarthings site; reverse A and reverse B. Reverse A is of the beaded border type. Reverse B is of the toothed border type. We thus eliminate reverse A and are obliged to compare the B reverse with the reverse of the coin in hand.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>The B reverse is eliminated immediately as it does not exhibit a doubled ‘6’and an embedded ‘0’ as does the coin in hand (see digital images).</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>To make the comparisons, below find digital images of the relevant obverse and reverse dies borrowed from the Aboutfarthings site.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b> OBVERSE 3</b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]1254040[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b> OBVERSE 3A</b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]1254041[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b> REVERSE B</b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]1254042[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SRSNUM, post: 6416524, member: 102988"]I thought to supply additional information to strengthen the case. See additional description and images below. [B]The case for a new variety entails a comparison with the known varieties at the Aboutfarthings.co.uk website.[/B] [B]We start with the obverse of the coin in hand which exhibits a toothed border and 5 berries in the wreath. As a result, this limits the obverse to a choice of obverse 3 or obverse 3a from the Aboutfarthings site as these are the dies that exhibit a toothed border with 5 wreath berries. Elimination of both follows immediately as the coin in hand exhibits 1½ stops after the D of “F:D”(see digital image). Obverse 3 exhibits 2 stops after “F:D”. Obverse 3a exhibits no stops after “F:D” . This seems sufficient to show the existance of a new obverse die for the coin in hand. To add additional evidence for a new obverse die, the following differences are noted for the coin in hand that are not exhibited in obverse dies 3 & 3a :[/B] [B]The first ‘I’ in ‘VICTORIA’ is doubled at the top (see digital image).[/B] [B]The first ‘R’ in ‘BRITTANIAR’ is doubled at top left, bottom left & bottom right (see digital image).[/B] [B]The ‘R’ in ‘REG’ is doubled at top left, outside lower left of the upright & outside right of the upper loop (see digital image).[/B] [B]We now continue with the reverse of the coin in hand which exhibits a toothed border. There are 2 reverse dies indicated on the Aboutfarthings site; reverse A and reverse B. Reverse A is of the beaded border type. Reverse B is of the toothed border type. We thus eliminate reverse A and are obliged to compare the B reverse with the reverse of the coin in hand.[/B] [B]The B reverse is eliminated immediately as it does not exhibit a doubled ‘6’and an embedded ‘0’ as does the coin in hand (see digital images).[/B] [B]To make the comparisons, below find digital images of the relevant obverse and reverse dies borrowed from the Aboutfarthings site. OBVERSE 3 [ATTACH=full]1254040[/ATTACH] OBVERSE 3A [ATTACH=full]1254041[/ATTACH] REVERSE B [ATTACH=full]1254042[/ATTACH] [/B][/QUOTE]
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