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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3211288, member: 112"]Paul, here's the thing you never seem to get. Perhaps it's because you weren't around the forum back then to actually see it, or perhaps you've just forgotten all the times I've told you this. There was a time when when about 85-90% of the time the TPGs would assign the same grades to coins that I would. The same grades that I still assign today. In other words, they graded coins the same way I did, the same way I still do. And that's because my grading standards haven't changed, while theirs most definitely have. The standards that the TPGs use today, are a lot more lenient than they were back then. Ya see, if all those coins were graded properly by TPG standards back then, how can they possibly be graded properly today ? The one and only possible explanation is because they changed their standards ! For me, and a lot of others, that is the entire issue.</p><p><br /></p><p>If coins were graded as 63s back then, and today the same exact coins are graded as 65s - how can anyone possibly say they aren't over-graded ? The only way anyone can do that is to have the philosophy that - this is what the TPG says so it must be so. Well what about what the TPGs said back then ? That suddenly doesn't count anymore ? We're all just supposed to accept gradeflation because the TPGs say so ? </p><p><br /></p><p>And as for the agenda I mentioned, that is the agenda ! The TPGs loosen their standards again and again because raising grades is or was the only way they could keep the submissions coming in. The only way they could keep making money - that's their agenda, making money ! They don't care about grading the coins correctly, they only care about making money. </p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom line, I know we're never going to agree on this, not ever. You, and other like you, are always going to have your position on this and I and others like me are always going to have ours. But in today's world there's a whole lot more people who are thinking the same way I do because it's gotten so bad, and so commonplace that just about everybody can see it and recognize it for what it is. And that's what is meant by the very title of this thread - grading, why bother ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3211288, member: 112"]Paul, here's the thing you never seem to get. Perhaps it's because you weren't around the forum back then to actually see it, or perhaps you've just forgotten all the times I've told you this. There was a time when when about 85-90% of the time the TPGs would assign the same grades to coins that I would. The same grades that I still assign today. In other words, they graded coins the same way I did, the same way I still do. And that's because my grading standards haven't changed, while theirs most definitely have. The standards that the TPGs use today, are a lot more lenient than they were back then. Ya see, if all those coins were graded properly by TPG standards back then, how can they possibly be graded properly today ? The one and only possible explanation is because they changed their standards ! For me, and a lot of others, that is the entire issue. If coins were graded as 63s back then, and today the same exact coins are graded as 65s - how can anyone possibly say they aren't over-graded ? The only way anyone can do that is to have the philosophy that - this is what the TPG says so it must be so. Well what about what the TPGs said back then ? That suddenly doesn't count anymore ? We're all just supposed to accept gradeflation because the TPGs say so ? And as for the agenda I mentioned, that is the agenda ! The TPGs loosen their standards again and again because raising grades is or was the only way they could keep the submissions coming in. The only way they could keep making money - that's their agenda, making money ! They don't care about grading the coins correctly, they only care about making money. Bottom line, I know we're never going to agree on this, not ever. You, and other like you, are always going to have your position on this and I and others like me are always going to have ours. But in today's world there's a whole lot more people who are thinking the same way I do because it's gotten so bad, and so commonplace that just about everybody can see it and recognize it for what it is. And that's what is meant by the very title of this thread - grading, why bother ?[/QUOTE]
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