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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3210638, member: 15309"]And what do you say to the seller? "Hey buddy, PCGS doesn't know squat, that MS65 is actually an MS63, and I expect you to sell it to me for MS63 money" The inception of the TPGs was to level the playing field between buyer and seller. You seem to think that collectors are better graders than the professionals at the TPGs. THEY ARE NOT! You definitely think you are a better grader than the professionals at the TPGs. YOU ARE NOT! You live in a bygone era and object to the market grading principles employed by the TPGs, and that is your prerogative, but it also severely limits your ability to buy coins. On average, your grade is 2 full grades lower than those of the TPGs, nobody is going to sell you an MS65 for MS63 money. That means you could only ever purchase raw coins. But alas, you haven't actually collected coins in over a decade, which is the only reason you can push this fantasy of "buying the coin, not the grade."</p><p><br /></p><p>And of course, you have to include something in your post that is blatantly ridiculous. The TPGs don't have an agenda. They provide a service for a small fee. They don't have to change their standards to drive submissions and never have. Their revenue growth has been in the moderns and world coin market for over a decade now, and you know it.</p><p><br /></p><p>The entire model of the TPGs is based on trust. They aren't going to mess with that trust by arbitrarily loosening grading standards in order to drive a 10% resubmission rate.</p><p><br /></p><p>And before you comeback with some garbage about me being a slave to the TPGs, know that just yesterday, I was on this very forum, ranting about the inconsistency of NGC in relation to the star designation. There is nothing wrong with being selective about purchasing a coin. There are many ways a coin can achieve a specific MS grade in the current market grading system. Personally, I am willing to accept coins with surface flaws as long as the luster & eye appeal are off the charts. You would call that coin "overgraded" and say it got a bump for color. I would say, that is market grading.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3210638, member: 15309"]And what do you say to the seller? "Hey buddy, PCGS doesn't know squat, that MS65 is actually an MS63, and I expect you to sell it to me for MS63 money" The inception of the TPGs was to level the playing field between buyer and seller. You seem to think that collectors are better graders than the professionals at the TPGs. THEY ARE NOT! You definitely think you are a better grader than the professionals at the TPGs. YOU ARE NOT! You live in a bygone era and object to the market grading principles employed by the TPGs, and that is your prerogative, but it also severely limits your ability to buy coins. On average, your grade is 2 full grades lower than those of the TPGs, nobody is going to sell you an MS65 for MS63 money. That means you could only ever purchase raw coins. But alas, you haven't actually collected coins in over a decade, which is the only reason you can push this fantasy of "buying the coin, not the grade." And of course, you have to include something in your post that is blatantly ridiculous. The TPGs don't have an agenda. They provide a service for a small fee. They don't have to change their standards to drive submissions and never have. Their revenue growth has been in the moderns and world coin market for over a decade now, and you know it. The entire model of the TPGs is based on trust. They aren't going to mess with that trust by arbitrarily loosening grading standards in order to drive a 10% resubmission rate. And before you comeback with some garbage about me being a slave to the TPGs, know that just yesterday, I was on this very forum, ranting about the inconsistency of NGC in relation to the star designation. There is nothing wrong with being selective about purchasing a coin. There are many ways a coin can achieve a specific MS grade in the current market grading system. Personally, I am willing to accept coins with surface flaws as long as the luster & eye appeal are off the charts. You would call that coin "overgraded" and say it got a bump for color. I would say, that is market grading.[/QUOTE]
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