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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;satootoko, post: 30204, member: 669&quot;]Those statements are contradictory.&nbsp; The first one <i>is</i> the definition of the term.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the other hand, a grade is an assesment of the condition of the item at the time of grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>Any manufacturing <u>process</u> can <u>result</u> in artifacts with a wide range of quality.&nbsp; The resulting artifacts can then be subjected to an extensive variety of post-process conditions, abuses&nbsp; and environments.&nbsp; Therefore, a coin produced by the proof <i>process</i> can easily <i>appear</i> at some point to have the visual characteristics of anything from a P0 to an MS70 DCam.</p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s why high grade proof coins are graded &quot;PF&quot; instead of &quot;MS&quot;, and any proof can earn <i>any</i> number on the Sheldon scale, including a hypothetical PF/P0 after sufficient abuse <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, such as giving a gold proof a lengthy dip in aqua regia. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie4" alt=":mad:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie4" alt=":mad:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>Nothing personal catman - I&#039;m attacking your conclusion, <b>not</b> you. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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