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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4144482, member: 19463"]There are somewhere between two and two million opinions on the grading of ancient coins. Some, like Ras, merge wear, corrosion and all other 'situations' into one rating somehow equating a slightly worn but smooth coins with an unworn but corroded one. Others, like NGC ancients, reserve the words (fine and friends) for wear and apply some other way of informing the user of 'situations' other than wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>In 1997, I proposed a three part system:</p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade.html</a></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ghhlau.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ggo.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Wear - Standard Grading</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/goffc.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/g46.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Things that happened before the coin left the mint - Conditions of Manufacture</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/gtone.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/gtest.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Things that happened after minting - Conditions of Preservation</p><p><br /></p><p>These last two are very slightly different from what the NGC system calls Strike and Surfaces but I did not attempt to assign a value number which I considered like comparing apples to oranges. How many fine scratches equal one gouge? How many letters completely lost to poor centering equal losing half of every letter due to a small flan? </p><p><br /></p><p>If you visit my page above, do click through to the pages with 96 images defining several 'Conditions'. This is one:</p><p><br /></p><p>VF <b>Ragged flan</b> </p><p>Septimius Severus denarius</p><p>Some flans were not round and smooth. Some collectors discriminate against these coins. Take care to distinguish this from a <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade3.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade3.html" rel="nofollow">chipped flan</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grag.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>There would need to be more than that if the job were done correctly allowing for the countless combinations and degrees of all of the factors presented and the many others I missed. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is why I now subscribe to a two tier grading system:</p><p>I like it.</p><p>I don't. </p><p><br /></p><p>Simplistic and non-commercial? I have been called worse. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have vague memories of someone way back when proposing a numbered grading system ranking non-wear factors but I forget the details and the source (Was it Paul Rynearson?). Do any of our long term collectors remember this?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4144482, member: 19463"]There are somewhere between two and two million opinions on the grading of ancient coins. Some, like Ras, merge wear, corrosion and all other 'situations' into one rating somehow equating a slightly worn but smooth coins with an unworn but corroded one. Others, like NGC ancients, reserve the words (fine and friends) for wear and apply some other way of informing the user of 'situations' other than wear. In 1997, I proposed a three part system: [URL]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade.html[/URL] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ghhlau.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ggo.jpg[/IMG] Wear - Standard Grading [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/goffc.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/g46.jpg[/IMG] Things that happened before the coin left the mint - Conditions of Manufacture [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/gtone.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/gtest.jpg[/IMG] Things that happened after minting - Conditions of Preservation These last two are very slightly different from what the NGC system calls Strike and Surfaces but I did not attempt to assign a value number which I considered like comparing apples to oranges. How many fine scratches equal one gouge? How many letters completely lost to poor centering equal losing half of every letter due to a small flan? If you visit my page above, do click through to the pages with 96 images defining several 'Conditions'. This is one: VF [B]Ragged flan[/B] Septimius Severus denarius Some flans were not round and smooth. Some collectors discriminate against these coins. Take care to distinguish this from a [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade3.html']chipped flan[/URL]. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grag.jpg[/IMG] There would need to be more than that if the job were done correctly allowing for the countless combinations and degrees of all of the factors presented and the many others I missed. This is why I now subscribe to a two tier grading system: I like it. I don't. Simplistic and non-commercial? I have been called worse. I have vague memories of someone way back when proposing a numbered grading system ranking non-wear factors but I forget the details and the source (Was it Paul Rynearson?). Do any of our long term collectors remember this?[/QUOTE]
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