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<p>[QUOTE="davidh, post: 2103564, member: 15062"]What I'm getting from all of this is that precise grading, except for as absolutely perfect MS70, is a sham. It's all subjective and any two persons or graders will often not see exactly the same thing. That's why many collectors will shop around to try and get the highest grade possible. Whether it's MS63 vs MS66, or VF35 vs XF40, or obverse vs reverse, there will always be disagreements. Although computer grading was never successful, I think that newer techniques could be developed that would overcome the shortcomings of the past, and would remove all subjectivity from the process. Something like dividing the image of the coin into a 225 square 25x25 grid (or larger or smaller, depending on the coin's size) and comparing it, square by square, to the design's perfect image. This could be done several times, with different lighting types and multiple lighting directions. That would pick up any weaknesses and flaws and develop an overall score as a percentage of deviation from the norm. The key is removing subjectivity from the process.</p><p><br /></p><p>I realize that computer grading isn't yet a polished art but it's day will come. If computers can read differences in fingerprints, they should be able to detect differences in the details of coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>For what it's worth, here's how PCGS does it's grading now [MEDIA=youtube]VTCSndJXS48[/MEDIA] </p><p>Two and three person grading reduces the subjectivity factor.</p><p><br /></p><p>And here was their method of computer grading <a href="http://www.google.com/patents/US5224176" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.google.com/patents/US5224176" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/patents/US5224176</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="davidh, post: 2103564, member: 15062"]What I'm getting from all of this is that precise grading, except for as absolutely perfect MS70, is a sham. It's all subjective and any two persons or graders will often not see exactly the same thing. That's why many collectors will shop around to try and get the highest grade possible. Whether it's MS63 vs MS66, or VF35 vs XF40, or obverse vs reverse, there will always be disagreements. Although computer grading was never successful, I think that newer techniques could be developed that would overcome the shortcomings of the past, and would remove all subjectivity from the process. Something like dividing the image of the coin into a 225 square 25x25 grid (or larger or smaller, depending on the coin's size) and comparing it, square by square, to the design's perfect image. This could be done several times, with different lighting types and multiple lighting directions. That would pick up any weaknesses and flaws and develop an overall score as a percentage of deviation from the norm. The key is removing subjectivity from the process. I realize that computer grading isn't yet a polished art but it's day will come. If computers can read differences in fingerprints, they should be able to detect differences in the details of coins. For what it's worth, here's how PCGS does it's grading now [MEDIA=youtube]VTCSndJXS48[/MEDIA] Two and three person grading reduces the subjectivity factor. And here was their method of computer grading [url]http://www.google.com/patents/US5224176[/url][/QUOTE]
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