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<p>[QUOTE="Hobo, post: 311673, member: 11521"]It is called <i>reputation</i>.</p><p> </p><p>I subscribe to the Grey Sheet (Coin Dealer Newsletter). On the front page of the weekly newsletter is the 'Coin Dealer Newsletter Certified Coin Market Indicator' which gives percentages of their "sight seen" values (in other words, the prices dealers paid other dealers for coins they actually saw) that slabbed coins sold for (dealer to dealer) "sight unseen". This is a good indicator of how dealers value the grading services' grading.</p><p> </p><p>CDN samples 10 US coin series (2 grades each for 20 coins total) and compares the prices dealers paid for the coins - sight unseen - to the prices dealers paid for the same coins in the same grades - sight seen - (the values indicated in the Grey Sheet) and averaged the results. </p><p> </p><p>Below are the results from the latest issue (12/21/07):</p><p> </p><p>PCGS - 82.69%</p><p>NGC - 77.86%</p><p>ICG - 74.13%</p><p>ANACS - 56.91%</p><p>PCI -49.37%</p><p>SEGS - 48.73%</p><p>NCI - 39.31%</p><p>INS - 27.94%</p><p> </p><p>It is obvious that dealers have a much higher degree of confidence in the grading of PCGS, NGC and ICG and very little confidence in the grading of NCI and INS. </p><p> </p><p>Think of it this way. If a dealer receives a phone call offering him - sight unseen - a slabbed MS-65 1891-S Morgan dollar (Grey Sheet bid = $1,000) he would probably offer $863 if it is in a PCGS holder, $779 if it is in an NGC holder or $741 if it is in an ICG holder. But he would only offer $393 if it is in an NCI holder and only $279 if it is in an INS holder. (These prices are based on the averages of the 10 different coin series. The figures may vary for a particular series.)</p><p> </p><p>Looking at it another way, if several collectors had identical collections of slabbed coins graded by a TPG listed above, dealers would be willing to pay - sight unseen - 6.2% more for the collection graded by PCGS than the collection graded by NGC and almost 3 times as much (2.96) as the collection graded by INS. </p><p> </p><p>One can also see that dealers don't trust PCGS implicitely because they are only willing to pay 82.69% of a coin's Grey Sheet price if that coin is in a PCGS holder and they are not able to see the coin first.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Hobo, post: 311673, member: 11521"]It is called [I]reputation[/I]. I subscribe to the Grey Sheet (Coin Dealer Newsletter). On the front page of the weekly newsletter is the 'Coin Dealer Newsletter Certified Coin Market Indicator' which gives percentages of their "sight seen" values (in other words, the prices dealers paid other dealers for coins they actually saw) that slabbed coins sold for (dealer to dealer) "sight unseen". This is a good indicator of how dealers value the grading services' grading. CDN samples 10 US coin series (2 grades each for 20 coins total) and compares the prices dealers paid for the coins - sight unseen - to the prices dealers paid for the same coins in the same grades - sight seen - (the values indicated in the Grey Sheet) and averaged the results. Below are the results from the latest issue (12/21/07): PCGS - 82.69% NGC - 77.86% ICG - 74.13% ANACS - 56.91% PCI -49.37% SEGS - 48.73% NCI - 39.31% INS - 27.94% It is obvious that dealers have a much higher degree of confidence in the grading of PCGS, NGC and ICG and very little confidence in the grading of NCI and INS. Think of it this way. If a dealer receives a phone call offering him - sight unseen - a slabbed MS-65 1891-S Morgan dollar (Grey Sheet bid = $1,000) he would probably offer $863 if it is in a PCGS holder, $779 if it is in an NGC holder or $741 if it is in an ICG holder. But he would only offer $393 if it is in an NCI holder and only $279 if it is in an INS holder. (These prices are based on the averages of the 10 different coin series. The figures may vary for a particular series.) Looking at it another way, if several collectors had identical collections of slabbed coins graded by a TPG listed above, dealers would be willing to pay - sight unseen - 6.2% more for the collection graded by PCGS than the collection graded by NGC and almost 3 times as much (2.96) as the collection graded by INS. One can also see that dealers don't trust PCGS implicitely because they are only willing to pay 82.69% of a coin's Grey Sheet price if that coin is in a PCGS holder and they are not able to see the coin first.[/QUOTE]
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