Grading Services, Now who is this ?

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  1. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    I am beginning to see more TGP services out three. One is PCSS or Prestige Coin Slabbing Service. I've gone on the net and not much there. Anyone ? I stick with the top services, this one is new to me. ppss.jpg
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Basement slabber not really a legitimate company and shouldn't be taken granted.
     
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  4. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Reverse, would you say the grade could easily go a grade less that could be a 100 dollar difference in value ? pcss.jpg
     
  5. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    one grade from 65 to 64 is a 110 dollar difference.
     
  6. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Not a 65 I would grade it a fair 64 one of the most common Frisco in the morgan series besides the 81s.Especially in gem uncirculated even so this one maybe $100 or less.
     
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  7. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    A number of self-slabbers printed their own estimate of grade and sold them to the unwary. Many do not take submissions from anyone
     
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  8. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    I told my friend I couldn't find anything on PCSS, the coin is not mind so I thought the 65 to 64 would be about right but even a 63 with the rub marks on obverse, would you agree ? Bag marks always seem to hinder better grades.
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Any grading by “basement slabbers” is totally inaccurate,and the coin should be treated as raw. That is not a 65–it is closer to a 63.
     
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  10. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    I'm glad you have responded, I figured a lower grade, my first ding on the coin would be those brush marks along the face ? You know more than me because the breast feathers on the reverse are well defined, yes ?
     
  11. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Low end 64-high 63 is the range.
     
  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I see it as a mid-high 63. Don’t forget that the real TPGs are very tough on grading for that date, just like they are on 1880s, and 1881s.
     
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  13. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    one question, would it be because of the high mintage numbers (8,900,000-12,760,000 and 9,250,000) ? I say yes .
     
  14. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Here is 1 bought called Numistrust. The name is very bad Numistrust.

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    I bought this coin for the color toning. Not sure I agree with the grading...
     
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  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Survival rate, plus commonality. There are numerous beautiful 1880s-1881s coins, as compared to other dates.
     
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  16. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I would place appreciable funds on a bet that you could currently find at least one coin in "top tier" TPG slab that would be significantly less qualified for Gem grade than that coin.

    I've done this regularly, and posted here. It appears that the average buyer believes sales pitches.

    Fortunately, until recently, I've been able to find at least a couple scarce certified coins per week that were "undergraded".

    JMHO
     
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  17. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    I agree this is my best 1881-S with cartwheel golden tone. ms66.jpg
     
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Nice coin!
     
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  19. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Thank you sir. I've kept this and a MS65, but have two 1880-S MS65 from NGC and two MS64 from PCGS, I guess I'm starting to hoard. LOL.
     
  20. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    There appear to be about ten times the number of basement slabbers as their are truly professional TPG. I love that they even go through the trouble to make up bar codes and fancy stickers to put on the labels.

    "BUY THE COIN, NOT THE SLAB"
     
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  21. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    I enjoy looking at national auctions where these "basement graders" have their coins up for bid. Graded by who at what grade ? How much ?
     
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