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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2963498, member: 24314&quot;]<span style="color: #000000">Thanks [USER=22377]@ddddd[/USER] for the tag.&nbsp; I assure you that I&#039;m an equal opportunity </span><span style="color: #ff0000">flamer</span><span style="color: #000000"> - While I love authentication services - I hate grading services!</span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">physics-fan3.14</span><span style="color: #a64dff">,</span> <span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)">posted: &quot;Anacs may be the cheapest, and they&#039;re fine for authentication.&nbsp; AVOID ICG. They are worthless.&quot;</span></p><p><br /></p><p>LOL, This poster must have used ICG in the <b>past five years</b> (<span style="color: #ff0000">??</span><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie105" alt=":yuck:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) because he sounds like he is speaking <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> from personal experience.&nbsp; I know most of the long-time graders at all four major services and can tell you that none of the major TPGS are &quot;worthless.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><u>Experienced professional numismatists</u> (this excludes many authors who recycle commonly available knowledge) will tell you that they can find instances of over-graded and under-graded coins in every services slab.&nbsp; I tell folks that the same exact coin is worth more in a PCGS slab, than an NGC slab, than an ICG slab, than an ANACS slab, than a SEGS slab, etc.&nbsp; So Jason and I have a different opinion of the TPGS rankings.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">&quot;If there is a chance that you or your heirs will sell them, I&#039;d consider NGC or PCGS. Both are more expensive than ANACS, but both are also more highly regarded. All three will do a fine job of authentication, but the grades are more consistently accurate with NGC and PCGS. The guarantees are also stronger </span><b><span style="color: #006666">[NOT TRUE]</span></b><span style="color: #5900b3"> - which means their coins sell for more.&quot;</span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">physics-fan3.14, posted: &quot;So, for the past several years, people have been complaining about &quot;gradeflation.&quot;&nbsp; For several years, we&#039;ve also been in a bull (upwards) market. In a bull market, optimism prevails and grades tend to loosen. </span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">However, now that the coin market is in a downward trend, there is a linked tightening of grades. That is completely expected. Values are decreasing, and so market grading (which is really judging the value of coins) is getting tighter. For the past year or so, the market has been in a secular trend, and grading has been getting tighter.</span> <b><span style="color: #b30000">Both of these are good things for the collector/buyer.</span></b>&nbsp; <span style="color: #5900b3">I would argue that this is a natural, healthy, and expected trend in grading. It also follows previous downturns in the market (if there was a way to accurately correlate the date graded to the slab number, you could fairly accurately predict which coins were undergraded. This is one of the true advantages of slab-historians and old-timers in a bull market).&quot;</span></p><p><br /></p><p>Well written and explained.&nbsp; <span style="color: #ff0000">But I disagree that what goes on is good for anyone.</span>&nbsp; Please explain to me and the OP why it is a good thing that a coin graded one way today is going to be graded one way (up or down depending on the market) sometime tomorrow.&nbsp; Since that happens by your admission, what is the grading standard and what good is grading?&nbsp; Sounds like a crap-shooting, money-making scheme to me.&nbsp; And don&#039;t forget to address the sticker companies who &quot;police&quot; the two<span style="color: #660000"><b> Largest</b>, s&nbsp; l&nbsp; o&nbsp; w&nbsp; e&nbsp; s&nbsp; t, and most</span><span style="color: #00b300"> expen</span><span style="color: #ff0000"><b>$</b></span><span style="color: #00b300">ive</span> TPGS&#039;s that you swear by.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>As to these comments: &quot;<span style="color: #5900b3">For example, <b>Insider loves to brag about how long he&#039;s been in the hobby.</b> Doug loves to talk about gradeflation. These old timers have seen these cycles, and we can all benefit from their longer perspective (even if they come across as slightly crazy, now and then).&quot;</span></p><p><br /></p><p>While I cannot speak for Doug I&#039;ll say this:&nbsp; Thank you.&nbsp; At least you must be reading some of my posts.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=16767]@pghpanthers2[/USER]&nbsp; I suggest you try all the TPGS&#039;s as each has pluses.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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