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<p>[QUOTE="CamaroDMD, post: 3017123, member: 5233"]You're right...we all have a different ethical barrier. But, what we can't really argue is what is commonly considered normal behavior in this field.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, my comments mostly relate to silver coinage...I don't know a ton about copper so I will yield to the experts there. Dipping to remove toning is a normal practice and it isn't unethical because it can't be. Dipping <b>doesn't hide anything</b>. It is <b>impossible</b> to dip a coin to mask problems. It's not a short term fix that reverts. If anything, dipping uncovers problems that the toning has hid.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some people prefer coins to be as original as possible...they like that vintage patina on their coins and that's a perfectly fine preference. Others want a blast white coin. Both are acceptable ways to collect and neither has any real ethical connection.</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess I'm a little puzzled as to why ethics is even being brought into this discussion. All I can figure is that you simply don't understand what dipping is or how it works. Dipping literally removes a small layer of molecules from the coin. So, it can't hide flaws. When chosen correctly, the coin's eye appeal will improve but there is nothing artificial about it. It was always there and was simply hidden. When chosen poorly...it makes flaws far more evident (sometimes toned problem free coins turn out to actually have problems masked by the toning).</p><p><br /></p><p>If you want to discuss ethics...how about this. It's a fairly common practice to take coins that have minor issues (light improper cleaning, ect) and put them in the environment that promotes toning (place them on a window sill, in a wooden desk) for an extended period of time. The goal is to tone them...to hide the flaws. To me, that could be a bigger ethical issue than removing toning. </p><p><br /></p><p>The belief that dipped coins will suddenly revert or are more susceptible to retone isn't really accurate. They are more prone to toning that a toned coin...because the surface is fresher but it is not different than a newly minted coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CamaroDMD, post: 3017123, member: 5233"]You're right...we all have a different ethical barrier. But, what we can't really argue is what is commonly considered normal behavior in this field. Now, my comments mostly relate to silver coinage...I don't know a ton about copper so I will yield to the experts there. Dipping to remove toning is a normal practice and it isn't unethical because it can't be. Dipping [B]doesn't hide anything[/B]. It is [B]impossible[/B] to dip a coin to mask problems. It's not a short term fix that reverts. If anything, dipping uncovers problems that the toning has hid. Some people prefer coins to be as original as possible...they like that vintage patina on their coins and that's a perfectly fine preference. Others want a blast white coin. Both are acceptable ways to collect and neither has any real ethical connection. I guess I'm a little puzzled as to why ethics is even being brought into this discussion. All I can figure is that you simply don't understand what dipping is or how it works. Dipping literally removes a small layer of molecules from the coin. So, it can't hide flaws. When chosen correctly, the coin's eye appeal will improve but there is nothing artificial about it. It was always there and was simply hidden. When chosen poorly...it makes flaws far more evident (sometimes toned problem free coins turn out to actually have problems masked by the toning). If you want to discuss ethics...how about this. It's a fairly common practice to take coins that have minor issues (light improper cleaning, ect) and put them in the environment that promotes toning (place them on a window sill, in a wooden desk) for an extended period of time. The goal is to tone them...to hide the flaws. To me, that could be a bigger ethical issue than removing toning. The belief that dipped coins will suddenly revert or are more susceptible to retone isn't really accurate. They are more prone to toning that a toned coin...because the surface is fresher but it is not different than a newly minted coin.[/QUOTE]
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