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<p>[QUOTE="QUEENKOIN, post: 47236, member: 656"]Here is my opinion on PCGs... I believe that certian scarce issues within a series are held to a tighter standard..... Such as a Washington 55d, this coin is bagmarked to death typically, and quality is very very poor. Not a single coin exists in ms67. I sent one that had a damn good shot.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.hepcatradio.com/55dwa-1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://www.hepcatradio.com/55dwa-2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>This coin has superb fields, strong luster and is almost mark free, which is unheard of for a 55d... PCGs gave it a ms66.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have sent in some others that compared to other years of silver Washingtons, the coins were I thought lock ms66's, but all three came back in 5 holders. PCGs is very tough on the 55d.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are many many nuansances of any given series and IMO PCGs takes this into account, when one learns these about any given series then can they examine a coin as a PCGs grader might and make a purchasing decision from that prospective.</p><p><br /></p><p>I specialize in Franklins, and I truely believe I can grade as well if not better then what I have seen from them, though as you know, there is a level of subjectivity to any opinion.</p><p><br /></p><p>Many factors go into PCG's thinking on a coin.... Here is what I have discovered with many many submissions over the years..</p><p><br /></p><p>1. PCGs hates haze</p><p>2. PCGs hates dull coins</p><p>3. Dark toners can also be a negative</p><p>4. They love strong luster</p><p>5. they love a sharp, bold, strong strike</p><p>6. baggy coins or hairlines are a negative.</p><p>7. for super color coins, they may give a bump up in grade.</p><p>8. the bigger the coin, the more bagmarks you may get away with and still get a ms65.</p><p>9. If the coin has super luster, hit free and some nice attractive toning, it becomes a ms67 candidate, such as my 56 Frankie that was pulled from a mint set..</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.hepcatradio.com/562.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://www.hepcatradio.com/563.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://www.hepcatradio.com/567.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>None of this really answers the concern you bring up, what constitutes the difference between a ms63 and a ms64...</p><p><br /></p><p>Since humans are involved I don't think it is possible to ever get a group of experts to agree....</p><p><br /></p><p>I can say that MS63 coins tend to be baggy, with hits that are noticable and considered distractions, they tend to have haze, dull unattractive toning, hairlines that are easy missed by the novice grader (hairlines are a grade killer)....</p><p><br /></p><p>The best advice I can give, is to simply purchase the grade of coin prior to the huge jump in price..</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you do buy the higher graded more expensive coin, study it closely and ensure you come to a agreement with the assigned grade, regardless of who's holder it might be in..</p><p><br /></p><p>HepKitty[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="QUEENKOIN, post: 47236, member: 656"]Here is my opinion on PCGs... I believe that certian scarce issues within a series are held to a tighter standard..... Such as a Washington 55d, this coin is bagmarked to death typically, and quality is very very poor. Not a single coin exists in ms67. I sent one that had a damn good shot. [IMG]http://www.hepcatradio.com/55dwa-1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.hepcatradio.com/55dwa-2.jpg[/IMG] This coin has superb fields, strong luster and is almost mark free, which is unheard of for a 55d... PCGs gave it a ms66. I have sent in some others that compared to other years of silver Washingtons, the coins were I thought lock ms66's, but all three came back in 5 holders. PCGs is very tough on the 55d. There are many many nuansances of any given series and IMO PCGs takes this into account, when one learns these about any given series then can they examine a coin as a PCGs grader might and make a purchasing decision from that prospective. I specialize in Franklins, and I truely believe I can grade as well if not better then what I have seen from them, though as you know, there is a level of subjectivity to any opinion. Many factors go into PCG's thinking on a coin.... Here is what I have discovered with many many submissions over the years.. 1. PCGs hates haze 2. PCGs hates dull coins 3. Dark toners can also be a negative 4. They love strong luster 5. they love a sharp, bold, strong strike 6. baggy coins or hairlines are a negative. 7. for super color coins, they may give a bump up in grade. 8. the bigger the coin, the more bagmarks you may get away with and still get a ms65. 9. If the coin has super luster, hit free and some nice attractive toning, it becomes a ms67 candidate, such as my 56 Frankie that was pulled from a mint set.. [IMG]http://www.hepcatradio.com/562.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.hepcatradio.com/563.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.hepcatradio.com/567.jpg[/IMG] None of this really answers the concern you bring up, what constitutes the difference between a ms63 and a ms64... Since humans are involved I don't think it is possible to ever get a group of experts to agree.... I can say that MS63 coins tend to be baggy, with hits that are noticable and considered distractions, they tend to have haze, dull unattractive toning, hairlines that are easy missed by the novice grader (hairlines are a grade killer).... The best advice I can give, is to simply purchase the grade of coin prior to the huge jump in price.. And if you do buy the higher graded more expensive coin, study it closely and ensure you come to a agreement with the assigned grade, regardless of who's holder it might be in.. HepKitty[/QUOTE]
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