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<p>[QUOTE="LETSBUYCOINS, post: 47028, member: 2657"]I looked at those definitions. They dont tell anything useful. Heres what Im saying. PCGS might grade a coin MS-64. On an 1880-O, MS-64 is $1200. MS-63 is $400. How do you tell MS-63 from MS-64????</p><p>I have some slabs by lower-tier grading companies that are MS-63. The coins meet the grade. Very nice luster. shiny smooth surfaces with moderate bag marks. But I have a slab marked MS-64. Meets the grade. Or maybe its MS-63, not MS-64. But what would be the difference? The rules in grading are TOO LIBERAL. THEY need to be more specific. How do you really tell the difference? I have a theory. MS-63 is when the bag marks are on the flat surfaces around Liberty' head. MS-64 is when the smooth surfaces are clean, and the bag marks are on the head, in the are of the neck, lower face. I have a theory that sometimes bagmarks are not really bagmarks. If you look closely, what appears to be bagmarks on libertys face might actually be imperfections from the die. Bottomline: The hobby needs more specifics. We need some AUTHORITY in the hobby to define MS-63 and MS-64. Definition would be number of bagmarks and Location of bagmarks. On the rare dates, the jump in price is huge. We need some conformity[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="LETSBUYCOINS, post: 47028, member: 2657"]I looked at those definitions. They dont tell anything useful. Heres what Im saying. PCGS might grade a coin MS-64. On an 1880-O, MS-64 is $1200. MS-63 is $400. How do you tell MS-63 from MS-64???? I have some slabs by lower-tier grading companies that are MS-63. The coins meet the grade. Very nice luster. shiny smooth surfaces with moderate bag marks. But I have a slab marked MS-64. Meets the grade. Or maybe its MS-63, not MS-64. But what would be the difference? The rules in grading are TOO LIBERAL. THEY need to be more specific. How do you really tell the difference? I have a theory. MS-63 is when the bag marks are on the flat surfaces around Liberty' head. MS-64 is when the smooth surfaces are clean, and the bag marks are on the head, in the are of the neck, lower face. I have a theory that sometimes bagmarks are not really bagmarks. If you look closely, what appears to be bagmarks on libertys face might actually be imperfections from the die. Bottomline: The hobby needs more specifics. We need some AUTHORITY in the hobby to define MS-63 and MS-64. Definition would be number of bagmarks and Location of bagmarks. On the rare dates, the jump in price is huge. We need some conformity[/QUOTE]
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