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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1016493, member: 112&quot;]It depends. Some coins may not have the cartwheel luster and still be MS, and some may have it and not be MS. </p><p><br /></p><p>Examples - a coin can be over-dipped and have virtually no luster at all and thus not be MS. - a coin can have toning that obscures the luster, thus no cartwheel, and still be MS. - a coin have full cartwheel luster but yet have light wear on the high points and not be MS.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you want other opinions on a given coin or coins, then post good pics and we&#039;ll be glad to help out. But there is no way that anyone can make a statement like - if it has no cartwheel luster then it is not MS - because it is simply not true.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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