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Message:: [QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 2328897, member: 44357"]I agree entirely, especially as I'm a "convert" from US coins after becoming fed up with the grading obsession. While I do have a number of EF+ coins, I would much rather have a nicely styled, nice metal VF over a poorly executed EF. This distinction is lost with grades and exacerbated by some slabs where anything "MS" sells for multiples even when it looks utterly terrible. I'm collecting coins which are historic and artistic with my primary goal to have all detail represented. If that can be accomplished with a lower grade coin, then I'll be very satisfied. That said, I'll upgrade coins if the opportunity arises, either selling off the duplicate or enjoying both for some time (but ultimately, I have a comparatively small collection in terms of quantity, and I intend to keep it that way to some extent). I hope my sharing of higher grade examples isn't discouraging at all - that would be the opposite effect for what I'm trying to accomplish. My first ancient was a $0.50 late Roman bronze and it took me several years to ever consider buying a coin over $100. Especially on this forum, we represent a range of budgets but I think our level of passion is quite uniform.[/QUOTE]