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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2674494, member: 112"]The same way that this grades MS63 - <a href="http://mikebyers.com/10679064.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://mikebyers.com/10679064.html" rel="nofollow">http://mikebyers.com/10679064.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And that this grades PF65 - <a href="http://mikebyers.com/21486908.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://mikebyers.com/21486908.html" rel="nofollow">http://mikebyers.com/21486908.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Or that this grades MS66 - <a href="http://mikebyers.com/3385146-007.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://mikebyers.com/3385146-007.html" rel="nofollow">http://mikebyers.com/3385146-007.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>But I'm with ya Mike, I don't understand any of it, and never have. In my opinion, none of these things should ever have any grade. Be authenticated ? Yes. Graded ? Absolutely not.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, if one accepts errors such as the ones I linked to being worthy of being graded, then one must also accept this one being graded.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Actually I would expect just the opposite to happen, which is what we see. When coins are designed, whether they be designed with coin alignment or medal alignment, the design of the rev and obv is done in such a way so as to allow enough metal to be available in the different areas on each side to fill the dies. Put another way and in simplest terms, high places here are low places there, and that is what allows the dies to be filled. </p><p><br /></p><p>So if you have two obv dies or two rev dies, rather obviously that doesn't happen. And what results is you're going to be short of metal in same areas on both sides. And have enough in the same areas on both sides.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>An alteration ? To me that implies a genuine coin being altered to its current state. And I don't think that's what happened here. But could it have been deliberately made outside the mint in order to deceive ? I'd say that is a distinct possibility. But I think it equally possible it was made inside the mint, accidentally or deliberately.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2674494, member: 112"]The same way that this grades MS63 - [url]http://mikebyers.com/10679064.html[/url] And that this grades PF65 - [url]http://mikebyers.com/21486908.html[/url] Or that this grades MS66 - [url]http://mikebyers.com/3385146-007.html[/url] But I'm with ya Mike, I don't understand any of it, and never have. In my opinion, none of these things should ever have any grade. Be authenticated ? Yes. Graded ? Absolutely not. But, if one accepts errors such as the ones I linked to being worthy of being graded, then one must also accept this one being graded. Actually I would expect just the opposite to happen, which is what we see. When coins are designed, whether they be designed with coin alignment or medal alignment, the design of the rev and obv is done in such a way so as to allow enough metal to be available in the different areas on each side to fill the dies. Put another way and in simplest terms, high places here are low places there, and that is what allows the dies to be filled. So if you have two obv dies or two rev dies, rather obviously that doesn't happen. And what results is you're going to be short of metal in same areas on both sides. And have enough in the same areas on both sides. An alteration ? To me that implies a genuine coin being altered to its current state. And I don't think that's what happened here. But could it have been deliberately made outside the mint in order to deceive ? I'd say that is a distinct possibility. But I think it equally possible it was made inside the mint, accidentally or deliberately.[/QUOTE]
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