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<p>[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 611113, member: 16510"]<b>It's not a matter of honesty it's a matter of marketability,</b></p><p><br /></p><p>It's not a matter of honesty it's a matter of marketability - there is no MS-70 coin, period. Nothing made by man and machines is perfect no matter what they say. They (the TPGC) all are in business to make money by grading and often authenticating your coins and then putting it in a piece of plastic, that's what they do.</p><p>If you believe they grade all coins the same then you are wrong. They purposely keep MS-70's to a minimum to seduce large dealers to send in groups or rolls, heck even boxes of silver eagles. They have created the very market we are discussing here, that's why they would and continue to do so.</p><p>Look you'all if it walks like a duck, well you know the rest.</p><p>I'll bet you anything that if we could travel back in time to say 1951 and go to a large coin show and tell all these wonderful old-timers what these companies are doing they would either laugh us out of the bourse or have us locked up and throw away the key.</p><p>In fact I am going to throw this scenario up to Mr. Bowers to see if he can get an article out of it for Coin World, I think it may make a good one.</p><p>Now this is my opinion only but, if you believe that the encapsulated coin in more valuable or more important than a raw coin of the same grade then the TPG companies have also seduced you and succeeded in their very purpose of creating a market. I will concede any business that makes a product then creates a market is smart, very smart. But I do not have to buy it unless I am seduced also. There is nothing new under the sun folks except illusion.</p><p>One more thing and I'll shut up - one day soon all these modern commemorative and MS-69 or 70 modern proofs and buillion, (all the coins that are supposed to be almost perfect to begin with) will not even fetch the price of the same coin in it's original packaging. Plastic will litter the floor like broken crumbs waiting to be swept up.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 611113, member: 16510"][b]It's not a matter of honesty it's a matter of marketability,[/b] It's not a matter of honesty it's a matter of marketability - there is no MS-70 coin, period. Nothing made by man and machines is perfect no matter what they say. They (the TPGC) all are in business to make money by grading and often authenticating your coins and then putting it in a piece of plastic, that's what they do. If you believe they grade all coins the same then you are wrong. They purposely keep MS-70's to a minimum to seduce large dealers to send in groups or rolls, heck even boxes of silver eagles. They have created the very market we are discussing here, that's why they would and continue to do so. Look you'all if it walks like a duck, well you know the rest. I'll bet you anything that if we could travel back in time to say 1951 and go to a large coin show and tell all these wonderful old-timers what these companies are doing they would either laugh us out of the bourse or have us locked up and throw away the key. In fact I am going to throw this scenario up to Mr. Bowers to see if he can get an article out of it for Coin World, I think it may make a good one. Now this is my opinion only but, if you believe that the encapsulated coin in more valuable or more important than a raw coin of the same grade then the TPG companies have also seduced you and succeeded in their very purpose of creating a market. I will concede any business that makes a product then creates a market is smart, very smart. But I do not have to buy it unless I am seduced also. There is nothing new under the sun folks except illusion. One more thing and I'll shut up - one day soon all these modern commemorative and MS-69 or 70 modern proofs and buillion, (all the coins that are supposed to be almost perfect to begin with) will not even fetch the price of the same coin in it's original packaging. Plastic will litter the floor like broken crumbs waiting to be swept up.[/QUOTE]
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