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Message:: [QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 3983920, member: 73489"]1923-D SAINT REVIEW: OK, I learned alot from this thread but wanted to go over Doug's and others comments in a unique grading situation.  So I didn't revisit the coins for weeks and forgot the differences. <a href="https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ns=Time%7C1%7C%7CLot+No%7C0&N=0+790+231&Ntt=1923-D+MS+66+Saint&ic4=SortBy-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ns=Time%7C1%7C%7CLot+No%7C0&N=0+790+231&Ntt=1923-D+MS+66+Saint&ic4=SortBy-071515" rel="nofollow">https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ns=Time|1||Lot+No|0&N=0+790+231&Ntt=1923-D+MS+66+Saint&ic4=SortBy-071515</a> What I did was this: I punched up all the 1923-D Saints that sold on Heritage from the link above in 2019....started from scratch...and tried to write down ALL the flaws I saw on the Obverse and Reverse within about 15-20 seconds (< 30 secs) for each side (no staring at the coin for 5 minutes !! )...to try and discern the differences between the $2,800 coins and the $5,000 coins. Here's what I wrote down with less than 30 seconds per side (the 4-digit numbers are the last 4 digits for the PCGS or NGC slabs number so you can confirm the coin): #5606 (sold for $5,040) Graded MS66+....OBV:  3 scuffy areas...2 dings on the Breast...some Knee abrasion // REV 3 black spots....some black discoloration....a few dings here-or-there....overall coin does NOT have many bag marks, esp. in the fields compared to your usual MS65. #4120 (sold for $3,600) MS66: OBV:  4 or 5 dings....Knee abrasion.....some black toning //  REV  Dings on rays....4 big dings, 4-5 minor/smaller ones....some dings on Tail Feathers but Eagle Breast/Top Feathers pretty clean. #0787 (sold for $5,280) MS66+:  OBV:  Ding on forehead of Liberty...5 small dings // REV:  3-4 small dings, 1 cut on top feathers. #6441 (sold for $3,840) MS66 OGH:  OBV:  Right scuff....scar along lower part of gown....NICE Capitol columns // REV:  3 dings above top wing.....cut above Eagle breast....dings on rear tail feathers. #2810 NGC (sold for $3,600) MS66 CAC: OBV:  Gash on right ray...dings on left rays.....weak columns....5 dings on left rays // REV:  7-8 dings on left ray....some abrasion on rim. #9649 (sold for $3,840) MS66: OBV: Great columns...ding on mouth....fields very clear, 1-2 dings each side...breast and knee nice....4 bag marks visible when light shifts // REV:  Dark black tone spots....dings on right rim....stray dings but no concentration. #4623 (sold for $3,120) MS66: OBV:  Black spot near "R".....some thin lines but could be plastic reflection.....4-5 dents in left gown...Nice columns....light marks on right rays....some rub or dings on right and left rims // REV: Scuff marks or black splotches front wing and rear feathers....dings on lower tail feathers....dings on top feathers. #4137 (sold for $2,760) MS66:  OBV:  Nose and chin dents....3-4 dings on the rays....Great Columns....2 gashes on Left and Right fields...a few tiny black spots // REV:  Black streak....spotting at rear top feathers....bigger splotch vertical feathers in the middle....rim wear or rub 12-6 PM...light dings on rays #1100 (sold for $2,400) MS66:    OBV: Rub or toning at 10 PM and across left arm...other white blotches (light at wrong angle ?) ....dings on torch ....Great Columns....2 dings on her right side of gown...mouth dings... // REV:  white blotches 8-12 PM...discoloration below "In God...."...nice feathers.[/QUOTE]

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