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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 7638496, member: 24314"]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />norantyki, posted: "Here is a link to purchase A Dictionary of English Numismatic Terms by Manville, commonly referred to as 'The Glossary.' <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Encyclopaedia-British-Irish-Numismatics-Dictionary/dp/1907427368" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Encyclopaedia-British-Irish-Numismatics-Dictionary/dp/1907427368" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.co.uk/Encyclopaedia-British-Irish-Numismatics-Dictionary/dp/1907427368</a> The term porosity is still very much current - an indication of how much you interact with others in the trade (porosity, smoothing, etc. are all "fluff" terms THOSE IN THE TRADE use to obscure the actual condition of the coin.  I prefer to use "corroded" and "fraudulently altered tooled surface" instead! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  What, not in that dictionary?  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)and yes, I am implying that alloy has leeched due to environmental damage. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Why not just say the coin is CORRODED which is also more misinformation as it is NOT POROUS and NOT CORRODED.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> That's just in MHO.  Perhaps British chaps see things differently - including things that don't exist.  I can only wonder how they describe a "lamination" which is also NOT present on the coin. No insults, no jibes... just fact (which you refer to as 'fluff'). I'm not going to engage you further as it is clear that you are just into spewing insults. I stand very much by what I said, and you haven't actually brought anything to the table to discredit that, other than your opinion. I will say that you have much to learn though..." There is a big difference between an insult and correcting misinformation in a sarcastic manner.  I do have much to learn. Now that is something we can agree on. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> In fact, I'm going to buy a copy of that book for my library!  Thanks for the link.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> BTW, as a young professional numismatist, I actually met "Harry" (Mr. Manville to me when we first met) when he lived in DC.  We used him on occasion as a consultant.  I knew he was a British numismatics scholar yet never knew of any of his publications.  Nevertheless: AFAIK, this is the U S of A and CT is located in the U S of A.  We won the war. What goes on in Great Britain is interesting and I agree that it is best to do in England what the English do.  While Mr. Manville was (RIP) a respected numismatist who has undoubtedly contributed more to BRITISH NUMISMATICS than I will ever do; I prefer that his definitions of numismatic terms don't corrupt those of the U.S. of A.  You see, they do/say things differently across the pond like pooping in a "loo."  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  Additionally, if that <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> malarkey (non-homogeneous alloys = porosity) you posted about metallurgy is a direct quote from "the glossary," I feel sorry for British collectors. [/QUOTE]

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