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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7637055, member: 24314"]norantyki, posted:"...in numismatic terms, porosity refers to where other alloys have either melted or leached out of a flan during the minting process (usually in the case of silver coin), or environmentally (usually in the case of copper or bronze coin, owing to how they are alloyed). Check the Glossary of Numismatics.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not going to argue with you about what you have read in the "Glossary of Numismatics" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)"><b> WHATEVER THE HECK THAT IS </b><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">as it reads like some clueless young collector with no scientific background attempted to look intelligent. That definition of porosity is not very good. Since I cannot locate "the glossary" on the Internet or that definition in any standard numismatic reference, I'll ask that you please enlighten me as to your source and its author. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Rather than mocking me (even though we appear to agree in this case in principle), please understand how terms are properly applied in numismatic contexts. This coin has porous surfaces, especially on the reverse, where there are numerous planchet flaws inconsistent with circulation. I have used the term correctly... apparently you need a refresher. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">If you ever decide to become educated correctly, I suggest you also look up the term "lamination." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Going back to the coin, I maintain, regardless of its initial disparency in strike between the obv and rev, it has undergone substantial <i><b>environmental damage (including mechanical and natural) wear, as well as cleaning</b></i> that have rendered it pretty much useless to any discussion of strike quality at branch mints.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>You are tossing all kinds of "fluff" around this thread that you have picked up as a collector. While a progressive or uninformed collector may like to transform the terminology, it is not helpful. Case in point. CIRCULATION WEAR on a coin is NOT CONSIDERED ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE! Either is CLEANING! Now, some <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Johnny-come-lately may reason that since corrosion on a coin may be damage from the environment so must a scratch, hole, bag mark, and friction be caused from the environment. Unfortunately, in that twisted case the wacko is correct!. Therefore just about every coin ever made is environmentally damaged. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Please stop the nonsense. </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">*edit, please stop going back and editing your posts to try to discredit me, which is what you have done... and if so, please mark the edits so that I can address them. I also don't feel the need to use clipart to get my point across - I just know what I am talking about."</span></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> As far as this <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie88" alt=":sour:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie91" alt=":stinkyfeet:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> BS. When you see an EDIT in my posit it is due to me correcting a spelling or grammatical error or adding more information! I have been here a few years and <b><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">I have NEVER changed a post to correct something I originally wrote that was INCORRECT</span></b>. I have been shamefully embarrassed on at least two occasions because of this. Furthermore, I believe I have confessed to being wrong when this has happened. It has NOT happened in this thread.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7637055, member: 24314"]norantyki, posted:"...in numismatic terms, porosity refers to where other alloys have either melted or leached out of a flan during the minting process (usually in the case of silver coin), or environmentally (usually in the case of copper or bronze coin, owing to how they are alloyed). Check the Glossary of Numismatics. I'm not going to argue with you about what you have read in the "Glossary of Numismatics" :([COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)][B] WHATEVER THE HECK THAT IS [/B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]as it reads like some clueless young collector with no scientific background attempted to look intelligent. That definition of porosity is not very good. Since I cannot locate "the glossary" on the Internet or that definition in any standard numismatic reference, I'll ask that you please enlighten me as to your source and its author. ;)[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Rather than mocking me (even though we appear to agree in this case in principle), please understand how terms are properly applied in numismatic contexts. This coin has porous surfaces, especially on the reverse, where there are numerous planchet flaws inconsistent with circulation. I have used the term correctly... apparently you need a refresher. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]If you ever decide to become educated correctly, I suggest you also look up the term "lamination." :D [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Going back to the coin, I maintain, regardless of its initial disparency in strike between the obv and rev, it has undergone substantial [I][B]environmental damage (including mechanical and natural) wear, as well as cleaning[/B][/I] that have rendered it pretty much useless to any discussion of strike quality at branch mints.[/COLOR] You are tossing all kinds of "fluff" around this thread that you have picked up as a collector. While a progressive or uninformed collector may like to transform the terminology, it is not helpful. Case in point. CIRCULATION WEAR on a coin is NOT CONSIDERED ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE! Either is CLEANING! Now, some :bucktooth: Johnny-come-lately may reason that since corrosion on a coin may be damage from the environment so must a scratch, hole, bag mark, and friction be caused from the environment. Unfortunately, in that twisted case the wacko is correct!. Therefore just about every coin ever made is environmentally damaged. :facepalm: Please stop the nonsense. [COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]*edit, please stop going back and editing your posts to try to discredit me, which is what you have done... and if so, please mark the edits so that I can address them. I also don't feel the need to use clipart to get my point across - I just know what I am talking about."[/COLOR] :confused: As far as this :sour::stinkyfeet: BS. When you see an EDIT in my posit it is due to me correcting a spelling or grammatical error or adding more information! I have been here a few years and [B][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]I have NEVER changed a post to correct something I originally wrote that was INCORRECT[/COLOR][/B]. I have been shamefully embarrassed on at least two occasions because of this. Furthermore, I believe I have confessed to being wrong when this has happened. It has NOT happened in this thread.[/QUOTE]
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