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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 2339862, member: 24314"]In order to fully understand Bower's comments and the move toward more liberal grading I believe a collector must be over fifty and will have gone through all the changes themselves.  I know several of us on CT fit that description.  Yes, TopcCatCoin, virtually any high AU with eye appeal has gone up a grade.  Most AU gold has; and many major rarities have (Some even went from XF to Unc).  If a grader questions this, the TPGS reply is along the lines of: "Grading has evolved as we (TPGS) learned more."     If you actually believe TPGS grades are meaningless...IMO, you are living in a dream world.  Please state your case.  Are they meaningless because two similar MS-65's bring different prices? Are they meaningless because YOU (and I) don't agree with 'the "market grading of today?  Please tell us.   He said it in his first printing of the guide years ago.  It's OLD NEWS!  And for you younger collectors, Bowers was one of the dealers who started the slide toward more liberal grading than was being practiced.   Can't say for sure, but It certainly looks like it. In the end, you either go with the flow or drown while sticking to the old standard.  In a few years most of us will be dead and the new standards of today will be old - an possibly still evolving.  Try to imagine how an Eric Newman feels about coins he purchased as VF/XF are now AU/Unc.[/QUOTE]