Grade Worthy?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Sam Stone, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    I'm going to pick a couple of photos I've taken of coins I have. From what I've learned none of them are key dates, varieties, etc but what I need to know is if they were potentially worthy, are they good enough quality to have graded? I know I can get better pictures and I know better than to hold anyone accountable for eyeball guessing, but if they were important enough to grade could someone estimate a range where they would land? I know I have to understand grading, and my guess is maybe one of them would at least come back at the bottom of the scale. I'm just not competent to make these decisions.

    Thank you if anyone can offer input why or why not any of them might grade if they had value. 1584016937327.png
     

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  3. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    These are not TPG worthy from these pictures.
     
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  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    Thats my opinion
     
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  5. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    You obverse picture is too dark to see very much, but I see several marks on the reverse. It's now worth the shipping and grading expenses to have this piece certified.
     
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  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Common date and not anything special quality-wise. You'd be wasting your money getting it graded.
     
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  7. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

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    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Sam, I used to search Mint bags of Kennedy's for high grades to submit. If they don't grade MS68, it's not worth submitting them. ~ Chris
     
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  10. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    Thanks for helping. I didn't think they were going to be high enough quality, but I needed to ask opinions to make sure. I'm trying to compare what I see with my eyes to photos of graded coins online and since I've never actually held a high grade coin I just didn't know.

    Thanks for your honesty and time.

    Thanks again.
     
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  11. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    Thank you for your input. I'm learning from scratch and didn't even realize how bad the pictures were. I took them somewhere between 1 and 2am this morning, went to bed, got up before 6 and posted them. At the time, I thought they were Rembrandt quality pictures.

    I need better coins, better eyesight, more sleep, and considerably better photography skills. Thanks again for the honesty and time.
     
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  12. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    Hello, Mr. Frog. I'm just trying to learn grading standards. I see coins online graded by the same 3rd party that vary immensely in quality, but get the same grade. I was aware these weren't prime suspects for monetary purposes and looking at my post I'm embarrassed at the photo quality I submitted.

    They looked much better this morning on 3 hours sleep.

    In fact, right this moment I'm watching examples on YouTube that were graded by PCGS, and I don't see consistency. You guys already told me in an earlier post that there are standards per grade but still a disconcerting amount of subjectivity in the process. I probably don't have anything that would actually be worth having graded, but I want to figure out as much as I can so I can stop asking over and over repeated superfluous copies of redundant cloned replicated reproduced twin mirror image facsimiles of the same questions.

    As always, your willingness to help me is very much appreciated.
     
  13. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    You're right more often than me, plus you gave me valuable information. In this forum, I've noticed no one is shy about telling someone when they're wrong. Thanks again for your time.
     
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  14. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member


    Unfortunately, grading coins is subjective. Would like to see pictures of those coins (you're talking about) in the slabs that vary immensely in quality in your opinion.
     
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  15. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    Thanks for the feedback. I did a rotten job of explaining I wasn't expecting these things to be anything special. I literally just grabbed what was closest to my laptop at the time. I'm trying to learn grading and see what I perceive as a wide degree of subjectivity. Looks like I did a lousy photographic job, too.

    Sorry.

    Later, if I can chew through the restraints, I may try to get better pics of other coins and, if I'm sane at the time, take a stab at what I think. Then comes the brutal honesty I need members to adjust my views accordingly.

    I can take it. I hope. Maybe. Not likely?

    I'll be back in a month or two, but thank you for imparting some of your wisdom. I do appreciate everyone's input.
     
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  16. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    The best thing about this site is that no one is shy to say the truth. Some people can't handle it, and they don't last long here. Heres hoping you wish to learn unlike the others.
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    They're nice but not up to grading standards. They are common dates and they wouldn't grade high enough to get your money back.
     
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  18. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    I'll see what I can find, but it may take a little longer than I would like. I just got a call from my wife that concerns me that will take priority. She works in retail and every day is worse than the day before because of the Coronavirus and today is intolerable. So this 62 year old crippled former stud is volunteering to help. You guys be careful and stay safe. My career was in health care and I've been getting a lot of fone calls asking about the virus. I certainly don't know the answer to all the questions, but I know people I trust far more than I trust the media. Be aware the statistics as presented by the government is grossly over optimistic. I recommend putting new coins you get in quarantine as long as you are patient. This virus can supposedly survive as long as a week on certain substances and metals are at the top of the list. In the end, there's probably no more risk to collectors than the public at large, but good sense always advised and a skill I have to rely on others for. Thanks for your time and I'll get back to you as soon as I can with the pics you requested.
     
  19. Sam Stone

    Sam Stone Old, fat, bald, gray, ugly, lazy, and married

    Absolutely. I'm incredibly stubborn and a very poor loser. I may step back a little sometimes, but I won't surrender. Thanks for the well-wishes.
     
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